Subject: Re: Subject: Plasmate status

[Diego Casella ([Po]lentino)]

> ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
> From: Sebastian Kügler <sebas at kde.org>
> To: plasma-devel at kde.org
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:11:24 +0100
> Subject: Re: Subject: Plasmate status
> Hey,
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:45:37 Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote:
> > > The timeline feature doesn't work for me. Adding a save point doesn't
> > > seem to
> > > do anything, the timeline stays empty. I've not debugged that yet, so
> it
> > > might
> > > be an easy fix. (Not sure though in how far that part is supposed to
> work
> > > in
> > > general.)
> >
> > Probably the guy (don't rememer his nick) that ported the old Workflow
> dock
> > to the standar menu forgot to connect
> > the clicked signal of the "new savepoint" menuitem with the
> > "newSavePoint()" slot :)
>
> I'll have a look at that.
>
> > I was also thinking to write a GSoC proposal about a deep refactoring of
> > PlasMate codebase (plugin-based), since it's not easy to mantain in its
> > current state, make it not crashing if the previewer crashes, add the
> theme
> > creation support, maybe try adding Qt QML editor into plasmate, and make
> it
> > ready for its first release.
>
> I strongly disagree with a "deep refactoring" of the code. It's fairly
> small,
> and I didn't run across any structural problem. In fact, it's very easy to
> get
> hacking on it, and the code bears little to no surprises.
>

Ok, however more modularization wouldn't hurt :)


> The editor part, which is the most interesting probably, is already plugin-
> based (it picks the editor used based on the mimetype).
> Crashing the previewer should not be possible anyway, and if it is, it
> needs
> fixing in libplasma. In general, scripted plasmoids (which plasmate is all
> about) cannot crash plasma (or in that case the previewer).
>
> I might be missing something here, in that case, please enlighten me. :)
>

I'll try to pinpoint the problem; these days I was developing a qml
plasmoid, and plasmate was pretty crashy :(

>
> That said, I'd be willing to mentor a GSoC project with the goal to release
> a
> stable and complete version at the end of it. That excludes anything which
> brings Plasmate further away from a release, though. Plasmate has been
> lingering for too long, we should bring it to a release instead of
> tinkering
> on the codebase.
>
> Oh great :)
If you think it's feasible, I will put my ideas together and fill a
proposal.


> The editor part is interesting, we can go two ways here: Work with Qt
> Creators
> QML editor, or move towards kdevelop and make sure kdevelop understands it
> and
> can auto-propose object properties and their syntax. Neither of those is
> necessary for a 1.0, imo. They're certainly desirable, though.


Agreed.


> > Ok, now back to KMix QML applet =)
>
> Have fun, and thanks for the comments :)
>

You're welcome, cheers!
Diego


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