Featurlets for 4.7

todd rme toddrme2178 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 14 15:52:28 CET 2011


On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org> wrote:
>> >> Lock/Logout:
>> >> 1. Add more options: Screen saver, shut down, reboot, turn off screen.
>> >
>> > screen saver == lock;
>>
>> Not everyone wants to lock their screen.
>
> and that's worth an extra button and configuration option? meh.

So we're just going to ignore home users who never have any reason to
lock their computer?

>> > shutdown and reboot == leave;
>>
>> The whole point is to have separate options for shut down and reboot.
>> That way you can logout with just one click instead of needing two.
>
> i don't feel the savings is worth the risk of accidental log outs. it will end
> up with a confirmation, so we'll still have extra clicks.

You don't need to click the confirmation, though.  You can just click
shutdown or reboot and leave.  But the way it currently it, you have
to hit the confirmation (which sometimes take a little while to pop
up), and if you forget it will often do the wrong thing.

>> > turn off screen is better
>> > left to hardware keys.
>>
>> Why?
>
> unless things have changed, this is something that doesn't always work on all
> systems via software? maybe that's something that has been fixed in the last N
> years?

I don't know.

>> >> 2. Put icons of the options next to the options on the config dialog.
>>
>> Was there supposed to be a comment here?

You still haven't replied to this one.

>> >> 2. Enable and disable labels independently for the main portion and
>> >> the popup.  Currently the popup always has labels.
>> >
>> > what would the point of this be?
>>
>> The labels take up a lot of space, forcing you to move your mouse
>> further, and they force the popup into a vertical orientation.
>
> corollary: they are easier to hit due to being bigger. 6 of one, half dozen of
> another at best. -1 on the basis that it means config UI bloat and more code
> paths to maintain.

Except along the dimension you actually move your mouse, they aren't
bigger, so this argument doesn't hold.  It takes up space, but doesn't
actually increase the target area along the dimension that matters.
In fact with icons only you could increase icon size while still
decreasing the amount of space, increasing the hit target.

Further, by this logic we should always have labels in the main part
of the quicklaunch as well, but we don't (it's an option there, and
the default is to not have them).  The code path already exists in the
main part of quicklaunch, so I am not sure you would actually need two
code paths.

And there is the fact that this used to be how quicklaunch worked, but
it was changed recently.  I don't remember whether there was an option
or not, but at least the default was to not use labels.

>> We already have the action there, it just doesn't work very
>> well (if at all, I couldn't figure out how to get it to work at
>> least).
>
> what action is where, and how does this action not work very well? (more
> specifics ... :)

Right click->Actions->Preview this File.  I'm not exactly sure what
goes wrong, I click it, the plasmoid appears briefly, then disappears.
 It doesn't seem to do anything useful.


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