PMC use case

[Alessandro Diaferia]

2010/3/30 Marco Martin <notmart at gmail.com>

> On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Marco Martin <notmart at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote:
> > >> Hey everybody,
> > >>
> > >> I think it will be really difficult to have the UI scale from 50"
> > >> screens right down to 5" screens. At the moment we use a top panel for
> > >> playback control (and mode switching) and will use a bottom panel for
> > >
> > > i don't think the mode switching should ultimately be there, the modes
> > > should be shown as mammoth icons in a main menu in the browser itself,
> > > that would be a kind of "root folder" for it.
> >
> > From the wiki:
> > On PMC startup the user will see a beautiful home applet that has (PMC
> > is meant to be fullscreen):
> >
> >     * Buttons to switch to the following media modes: Pictures, Music,
> > Videos (later: Games, maybe an all Media Mode)
> >     * Area with information about your recently played media, highest
> > ratings, things that allow you to jumpstart to a specific media.
> >     * Possibility to add normal plasmoids, like note apps, web slice,...
>
> do you plan to make that home applet the top bar? is not fullscreen enough,
> and put all the possible mode here will quickly run out of space an be
> cluttered, in the bar there should be a single button, triggered also from
> a
> single real key (could be esc or home, or whatever in keyboards, the more
> adapt case by case on remotes)
> that "home applet" if you want it really isolated could be a different
> containment, so would be a totally standaloe fullscreen thing, but i don't
> think i like it.
>
>

> i really do think it should be right into the browser, the "modes" together
> eventual plugins to do other stuff should be right into the browser as
> items,
> so they can be as big as possible taking the whole screen or scale decently
> if
> some day there will be many of them.
>

This is how the browser currently works. It starts showing available plugins
to use for browsing. And i do agree with this behavior.

>
> the "adding normal plasmoids" part divides in two categories:
> tiny plasmoids with a brief informational value:
> couldbe put somewhere in the main containment, an rssnow with finally some
> adaptments for panels could be put in the bottom bar for instance, or we
> could
> want an analog clock somewhere in the screen while a videos is playing and
> the
> controls/info are shown on top, just because we can...
>
> or on the other hand there could be some plasmoid that scale well as full
> screen things, like a browser or a way more detailed version of the weather
> applet, those could take their own containment and be shown as fullscreen,
> launched from the browser
>
> > So eventually only the home button will remain in the controller and
> > the home screen will be the root of everything. On media type switch
> > we will then alwys go via the home applet (2 clicks). At some point we
> > thought that having mode switch buttons in the controller would be
> > good to reduce switching to 1 click. At one point I imagined holding
> > the home button in the controller would make a sort of drawer expand
> > which would show the other mode buttons.
> >
> > >> displaying information about media. The bottom panel might be reusable
> > >> for a big screen UI, but the playback control migth have to be
> > >> transformed into something else. Anyway, the way Alessandro designed
> > >
> > > as long as it scales big enough to be readable it will be perfectly
> fine.
> > > on a tv that thing will be purely informational since you won't click
> > > that buttons, because you would have play,stop, fast forward etc
> > > directly into the remote
> >
> > anyway, the controller has a "toggle autohide" button, we can set it
> > to always autohide on big TV screens
> >
>
> it should -always- be autohide and what is lacking at the moment is a way
> to
> decide what autohide at the proper moment.
> when you are watching a movie you can want to unhide only the top bar ith
> the
> progress and the bottom bar with informations.
>
> another thing is when you decide you want something else, so you could want
> to
> unhide the browser and/or the playlist. the two things don't make much
> sense
> shown at the same time, really.
>
> Cheers,
> Marco Martin
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Alessandro Diaferia
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