R: Re: R: Re: R: PMC meeting summary

[TRINGALINVENT at libero.it]

About the Phonon issue I found a strange thing: PMC video player
doesn't work, but the mediaplayer example given with QtCreator works fine.
It could be a stupid thing, but it could be also a starting point to find out
differences between the two programs.

Luca Tringali

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Da: alediaferia at gmail.com
Data: 16/06/2010 20.41
A: <plasma-devel at kde.org>
Ogg: Re: R: Re: R: PMC meeting summary



2010/6/16 Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org>
On June 16, 2010, TRINGALINVENT at libero.it wrote:
> >> I mean... actually there are three
> >> widgets usable
> >> (picture, video, music browser) but it could be useful if the user
> >> could choose to add some
> >> other plasmoids so in the "welcome menù" he can decide to use them, for
> >> example the
> >> webbrowser plasmoid.
> >
> >this would probably be another state altogether, much like the picture and
> >video browsers except that it would browse relevant widgets. i'd probably
>
> call
>
> >it "Apps" or somesuch. from the listing of available widgets, the user
> >could select one or more to launch (full screen of course :)
>
> Yes, it's a good idea.

great; and since you're wanting to charge in on this, please don't hesitate to
ask questions as they arise, either here or on irc in #plasma or #plasma-
mediacenter :)

welcome to the project, btw :)

> I think also that, if the project reach a good
> state, we could start thinking to release

absolutely; it's not a real project until releases get made ;)

> a version of KDE that uses PMC as main eviroment, so there will be a
> standard Kde version, a
> netbook remix, and a mediacenter remix.

my initial plans/hopes for PMC are to ship it as a feature of Plasma Desktop;
both Windows and MacOS have media center apps that ship with them, so this
would draw us to feature parity with them (and above all the other F/OSS
desktop options out there at the same time in this regard :)

that will get us a lot of feedback and testing, as our strongest base is still
desktop users. then we can take that and start doing the work to make a proper
stand-alone system. that will likely revolve around getting the input system
(remotes, esp) working well and uPnp for media. i'd LOVE to see the ability to
stream media from a Plasma Desktop or Amarok to a Plasma MC with "zero" user
configuration. but that can be step 2, after step 1 of releasing it alongside
Plasma Desktop for laptop/desktop users.

 
what does everyone think about targetting 4.6 for a solid "step 1"? we can do
a tech preview before then if PMC hits some milestones. we can work with
openSuse and/or Kubuntu to roll such a thing. (aka "copy the netbook pattern")

4.6 is a good target but we *absolutely* need to sort out the Phonon issue.
Personally I cannot manage to play videos at all, and I'm a developer.. think 
about users.
I know i might have some config issues, but i don't think Avatar-like people 
in videos are over as of the current Phonon version.
Regarding the other stuff we now have a pretty much working integration with 
nepomuk + i'm doing huge API review (just committed one).
Christopher is doing pretty great job with QML while Christophe is giving 
great help polishing.
I'm hoping in Hayri to get the working JS dataengines soon.
Stated this i think that at least a tech preview can be released soon.
Regarding the release schedule, instead, i cannot guarantee i can follow KDE 
SC release schedule in general due to university ( :/ ) and therefore I was 
thinking about extragear. If, instead, we reach a good developers base I think 
we have more chances to release alongside with KDE SC.

Just my 2 cc.
Cheers :)
 

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