global menu bar for gsoc

[Ivan Ruchkin]

2010/4/2 Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org>

> On April 1, 2010, Ivan Ruchkin wrote:
> > 2010/3/31 Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org>
> >
> > > On March 30, 2010, Ivan Ruchkin wrote:
> > > > 2010/3/29 Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org>
> > > >
> > > > > On March 28, 2010, you wrote:
> > > > > > My name is Ivan, I'd like to improve global Mac-OS style menu bar
> > > > > > as
> > >
> > > my
> > >
> > > > > > GSoC project.
> > > > > > Can you please point me to the development code of it?
> > > > > > How does it corellate with XBar plasmoid?
> > > > >
> > > > > there is a fairly old start to such a plasmoid in:
> > > > >        /trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets/menubar/
> > > > >
> > > > > it has no relation to the xbar plasmoid, which only works with
> > > > > bespin.
> > > > >
> > > > > done "right", i think what really ought to happen is this:
> > > > >
> > > > > * add a "global menubar" option to the Desktop -> Workspace control
> > >
> > > panel
> > >
> > > > > in
> > > > > system settings
> > > >
> > > > That seems more or less clear. That's systemsettings application
> > > > (kdebase/workspace/systemsettings). But where can I find code that
> > > > configures the exact panel "Desktop->Workspace"?
> > > >
> > > > > * create a Plasma::Containment of type Panel for the menubar; it
> > > > > would
> > >
> > > be
> > >
> > > > > much
> > > > > like the current Panel containment, but it would have the
> > >
> > > implementation
> > >
> > > > > of the menubar directly inside it, and it would arrange other
> > > > > plasmoids around it. this means that the menubar itself wouldn't be
> > > > > so much a separate plasmoid
> > > > > as it would a Plasma::Contaiment. this would go into
> > > > > kdebase/workspace/plasma/desktop/containments/.
> > > >
> > > > So, that's a subclass of Plasma::Containment, but most of code is
> > > > copied from Panel and some special features added?
> > >
> > > yes. (not that there is all that much code in the Panel containment;
> and
> > > some
> > > of what is there could probably be done cleaner at this point)
> >
> > And then KDE applications should add their applet-menus into the menubar
> > containment?
> >
> > Or maybe a special interface should be created for adding something like
> > QMenu there and encapsulate applet creation inside menubar?
>
> there are a few approaches to this, including using xembed or a dbus based
> system (e.g. where the active window can be queried for its top level
> menubar
> entries, and a signal sent to the application to show the corresponding
> menu
> in the correct location when it is activated). perhaps look at how bespin
> is
> doing this currently, how the menubar kick applet in kde3 did it and
> perhaps
> look at how other systems on x11 do this (if any do?)
>

Why can't we just take the dbus client-server mechanism from Bespin and
XBar? Menubar containment will serve as server and every application as a
client.

Or that's not in scope of that project?


>
> > > > About keeping it always on the top of screen: maybe the position (top
> > > > or botton) of menubar should be configured in control panel as well?
> > >
> > > does it make any sense to have the menubar at the bottom of the screen?
> > > (certainly doesn't on the left/right, we know that much for sure ;)
> >
> > As for me, I keep a panel with taskbar and icons in the top of screen, so
> I
> > may want to have menubar in the bottom. Sounds wild, but why not..?
>
> because offering configuration options that make no sense is inelegant and
> comes at a cost to testability, quality and usability.
>
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