activities overview, take N

[Chani]

> > > perhaps even in the pager itself, an extra button that disappears on
> > >  desktop effects off or if there is not the proper atom set (i.e.
> > > compiz)
> >
> > hmm. where in the pager? :)
> 
> bah, just a button in an horizontal layout with the current pager?

then you'd have to change it to a vbox for vertical panels.
imho, easier to make a separate applet and put it beside the pager.
oh, but then you lose the "hide it when composite is off" feature.
hmmmm. yeah, maybe that is a reason to put it in there.

and then someone could make a more advanced generic-kwin-effect plasmoid if 
they feel like it. if there isn't such a thing on kde-look already.

> 
> > >
> > > that yes, i do think that having to totally switch away from what
> > > you're doing is bad. however, the screen space is limited, even on a
> > > big screen, because the windows often use almost 100% of the available
> > > space, even if there were 200 square metrers.
> > > this is a problem in plasma in general, the desktop is often exactly
> > > that modal thing opposed to every possible window that stays over it,
> > > i'm trying hard to think about a possible solution but yet failing (the
> > > magnifying glass thing being the best attempt on that)
> >
> > yeah... Dashboard is modal too, and I see dashboard far more often than I
> >  see the desktop behind windows...
> > I kinda just think of dashbordview/desktopview as a special window,
> > though. if I want plasmoids non-modal I put them on my panel... the only
> > thing I'm missing is the ability to have a Notes plasmoid on a panel (the
> > focus issue iirc).
> 
> hm, probably should become a popupapplet too, so different window, habemus
> focus..

that or I should someday get around to making that focus-a-panel keyboard 
shortcut :)
although with that richtext bar the notes plasmoid might not fit in a 
horizontal panel... wonder if I can turn it off

> 
> > > it would be possible to open more than one of those windows and drag
> > >  windows thumbnails around to move and "copy" them, perhaps it could
> > > be, perhaps even plasmoids (we would lose the ability to move a
> > > plasmoid between containments at all without zui)
> > > i wonder if with some kwin hook it would be possible to even drag live
> > >  windows in it, this would not make it a tool where all other tool must
> > > be closed to use it, but a tool among the others that can interact with
> > > them.
> >
> > ehh... I'm not sure I like this. it sounds shiny, but in practice... I
> >  think it'd be less confusing to just drag stuff between the taskbar and
> >  activity bar, and switch to an activity when you click it.
> > so long as the activity bar, like the add-widgets bar, is reachable from
> >  the dashboard, it'll be possible to move plasmoids still.
> 
> dragging from taskbar to activity bar is to be done, yes, but what if there
>  is the show only windows in the current activity option set? the entry
>  would disappear and would be necessary to switch activity to have the
>  window back not sure if it's actually a bug or a feature, hmm could be
>  both..
>

when we were discussing Overview I think the same thing was planned, only the 
giant taskbar widget would have a visual difference between windows that are on 
the current activity and windows that are just everywhere.
I think it's a feature. :)

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