[Plasma] looks and usability of applet handle frame

[pinheiro]

A Friday 27 June 2008 21:54:06, Celeste Lyn Paul escreveu:




> That's fine with me.  Will it only be dragable from the config box or still
> the entire widget click and dragable?  (I don't think it matters as long as
> it is consistent).
the main focus would be on the box, like standr way, but if other methoths 
work its ok I think. It will bjust be extra funcionality...
> On Friday 27 June 2008 17:45:06 pinheiro wrote:
> > A Friday 27 June 2008 19:27:07, Celeste Lyn Paul escreveu:
> >
> > well I propose this anser, its a slide isn and out themable box, that can
> > old several butons
> > i propose move rotate resize control and close,
> > a plasmoid can set if he wants to have them all or just a couple of them.
> >
> > http://nuno-icons.com/images/estilo/image5906.png
> >
> > > I´m not sure if on-click interaction is consistent in all widgets.  For
> > > example, most widgets have click and drag but for the Digital Clock
> > > widget, click opens the calendar.  It is not click-and-drag to move
> > > like the other widgets.  I only have the 10 widgets that come by
> > > default, but I imagine there are other exceptions.
> > >
> > > The question becomes: should the on-click interaction be the same for
> > > all widgets (then we can think about your proposal more)?  Otherwise we
> > > have to stick with the border interaction.
> > >
> > > Truthfully I´m not too comfortable with the inconsistent interaction
> > > because it requires you to learn idiosyncracies of each widget instead
> > > of class-level interaction.  Are there any widgets where it makes sense
> > > that click does something else (like open the calendar in Digital
> > > Clock). Making interaction with widgets consistent should be a goal,
> > > regardless if the
> > > function/configure icons stay in the same place or are adjusted
> > >
> > > On Friday 27 June 2008 07:05:18 Ismael Asensio wrote:
> > > > Here it goes my proposal:
> > > >
> > > > Use icons over the plasmoid itself avoiding the extra handle frame.
> > > > The feel of these icons would be pretty much like those on old
> > > > amaroker plugin for kicker.
> > > >
> > > > All icons are desaturated (ala cashew) but still recognizable, until
> > > > the mouse goes over one of them. This icon "recovers the color" with
> > > > an animation (sorry for the untechnical expresion) and it's ready to
> > > > be clicked by the user. Of course, this behaviour only happens when
> > > > the desktop components are unlocked, and I'm supposing that in this
> > > > state the user only wants to play with the layout of plasmoids, not
> > > > to interact with them.
> > > >
> > > > Every action can be place in a different corner of the plasmoid, to
> > > > help easy recognition, not only by the icon, but by its position. You
> > > > can easily remember that, for example, rotation is low-left corner
> > > > and changing size is low-right, etc. The center of the plasmoid
> > > > (greater area, easy to click) can be set for dragging the plasmoid.
> > > >
> > > > Visually, it could be like the image attached. Sorry for the HORRIBLE
> > > > HORRIBLE mock-up. It's done in a quick&dirty way with MS paint at job
> > > > office... but I hope it helps to get the idea.
> > > >
> > > > 2008/6/27 Loïc Marteau <loic.marteau at gmail.com>:
> > > > > Hello !
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry if this has already been talked but i would like to open a
> > > > > thread about the frame draws by the applet handle.
> > > > > For people wo doesn't know well plasma terminology I talk about the
> > > > > configuration frame who appears when mouse is over a plasmoid so
> > > > > the user can resize, rotate, configure or move the plasmoid on the
> > > > > Desktop
> > > > >
> > > > > My personal opinion is that this frame is not very pretty and that
> > > > > there is not interest to make it an entire frame around the applet.
> > > > > So I feel that it disturbs the user visually and functionally
> > > > > speaking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps we can :
> > > > >
> > > > >    * just keep the small area who contains the icons, and add a
> > > > > move icon. * better imho to a maximum reduce the visual pollution :
> > > > > add a cashew for that ! on the top right corner of each applets
> > > > >          o The cashew let appears icons and text for each possible
> > > > >            action when mouse is over the cashew and not on mouse
> > > > > click so we don't need to make one more click than before for doing
> > > > > the same thing.
> > > > >          o Like first solution, add a move icon.
> > > > >    * Other ideas...
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think about ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers !
> > > > >
> > > > > Loic
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