[Plasma] looks and usability of applet handle frame

[Janz]

Marco,

I think probably some empty space left (on top, bottom, the sides and/or
between sensible areas) would do it in all of those applets.

2008/6/27 Marco Martin <notmart at gmail.com>:

> On Friday 27 June 2008, Celeste Lyn Paul wrote:
> > I´m not sure if on-click interaction is consistent in all widgets.  For
> > example, most widgets have click and drag but for the Digital Clock
> widget,
> > click opens the calendar.  It is not click-and-drag to move like the
> other
> > widgets.  I only have the 10 widgets that come by default, but I imagine
> > there are other exceptions.
> >
> > The question becomes: should the on-click interaction be the same for all
> > widgets (then we can think about your proposal more)?  Otherwise we have
> to
> > stick with the border interaction.
>
> many widgets have areas sensible to click or keyboard input, like the
> clock,
> or the twitter applet, or the notes one..
> so we can't drag to move in many cases.
> so would it be better to disable the drag on move for all applets?
>
> Cheers,
> Marco Martin
>
> > Truthfully I´m not too comfortable with the inconsistent interaction
> > because it requires you to learn idiosyncracies of each widget instead of
> > class-level interaction.  Are there any widgets where it makes sense that
> > click does something else (like open the calendar in Digital Clock).
> > Making interaction with widgets consistent should be a goal, regardless
> if
> > the
> > function/configure icons stay in the same place or are adjusted
> >
> > On Friday 27 June 2008 07:05:18 Ismael Asensio wrote:
> > > Here it goes my proposal:
> > >
> > > Use icons over the plasmoid itself avoiding the extra handle frame. The
> > > feel of these icons would be pretty much like those on old amaroker
> > > plugin for kicker.
> > >
> > > All icons are desaturated (ala cashew) but still recognizable, until
> the
> > > mouse goes over one of them. This icon "recovers the color" with an
> > > animation (sorry for the untechnical expresion) and it's ready to be
> > > clicked by the user. Of course, this behaviour only happens when the
> > > desktop components are unlocked, and I'm supposing that in this state
> the
> > > user only wants to play with the layout of plasmoids, not to interact
> > > with them.
> > >
> > > Every action can be place in a different corner of the plasmoid, to
> help
> > > easy recognition, not only by the icon, but by its position. You can
> > > easily remember that, for example, rotation is low-left corner and
> > > changing size is low-right, etc. The center of the plasmoid (greater
> > > area, easy to click) can be set for dragging the plasmoid.
> > >
> > > Visually, it could be like the image attached. Sorry for the HORRIBLE
> > > HORRIBLE mock-up. It's done in a quick&dirty way with MS paint at job
> > > office... but I hope it helps to get the idea.
> > >
> > > 2008/6/27 Loïc Marteau <loic.marteau at gmail.com>:
> > > > Hello !
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if this has already been talked but i would like to open a
> thread
> > > > about the frame draws by the applet handle.
> > > > For people wo doesn't know well plasma terminology I talk about the
> > > > configuration frame who appears when mouse is over a plasmoid so the
> > > > user can resize, rotate, configure or move the plasmoid on the
> Desktop
> > > >
> > > > My personal opinion is that this frame is not very pretty and that
> > > > there is not interest to make it an entire frame around the applet.
> So
> > > > I feel that it disturbs the user visually and functionally speaking.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps we can :
> > > >
> > > >    * just keep the small area who contains the icons, and add a move
> > > > icon. * better imho to a maximum reduce the visual pollution : add a
> > > > cashew for that ! on the top right corner of each applets
> > > >          o The cashew let appears icons and text for each possible
> > > >            action when mouse is over the cashew and not on mouse
> click
> > > >            so we don't need to make one more click than before for
> > > >            doing the same thing.
> > > >          o Like first solution, add a move icon.
> > > >    * Other ideas...
> > > >
> > > > What do you think about ?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers !
> > > >
> > > > Loic
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