[Plasma] looks and usability of applet handle frame

[Marco Martin]

On Friday 27 June 2008, pinheiro wrote:
> A Friday 27 June 2008 19:27:07, Celeste Lyn Paul escreveu:
>
> well I propose this anser, its a slide isn and out themable box, that can
> old several butons
> i propose move rotate resize control and close,
> a plasmoid can set if he wants to have them all or just a couple of them.
>
> http://nuno-icons.com/images/estilo/image5906.png

so would say only move plasmoids by dragging the move icon on the sliding tab, 
maybe still moving them by clicking on the plasmoid by pressing alt (and 
doing always that) is not discoverable, but since would not be the only way 
it could be ok anyways

Cheers,
Marco Martin

> > I´m not sure if on-click interaction is consistent in all widgets.  For
> > example, most widgets have click and drag but for the Digital Clock
> > widget, click opens the calendar.  It is not click-and-drag to move like
> > the other widgets.  I only have the 10 widgets that come by default, but
> > I imagine there are other exceptions.
> >
> > The question becomes: should the on-click interaction be the same for all
> > widgets (then we can think about your proposal more)?  Otherwise we have
> > to stick with the border interaction.
> >
> > Truthfully I´m not too comfortable with the inconsistent interaction
> > because it requires you to learn idiosyncracies of each widget instead of
> > class-level interaction.  Are there any widgets where it makes sense that
> > click does something else (like open the calendar in Digital Clock).
> > Making interaction with widgets consistent should be a goal, regardless
> > if the
> > function/configure icons stay in the same place or are adjusted
> >
> > On Friday 27 June 2008 07:05:18 Ismael Asensio wrote:
> > > Here it goes my proposal:
> > >
> > > Use icons over the plasmoid itself avoiding the extra handle frame. The
> > > feel of these icons would be pretty much like those on old amaroker
> > > plugin for kicker.
> > >
> > > All icons are desaturated (ala cashew) but still recognizable, until
> > > the mouse goes over one of them. This icon "recovers the color" with an
> > > animation (sorry for the untechnical expresion) and it's ready to be
> > > clicked by the user. Of course, this behaviour only happens when the
> > > desktop components are unlocked, and I'm supposing that in this state
> > > the user only wants to play with the layout of plasmoids, not to
> > > interact with them.
> > >
> > > Every action can be place in a different corner of the plasmoid, to
> > > help easy recognition, not only by the icon, but by its position. You
> > > can easily remember that, for example, rotation is low-left corner and
> > > changing size is low-right, etc. The center of the plasmoid (greater
> > > area, easy to click) can be set for dragging the plasmoid.
> > >
> > > Visually, it could be like the image attached. Sorry for the HORRIBLE
> > > HORRIBLE mock-up. It's done in a quick&dirty way with MS paint at job
> > > office... but I hope it helps to get the idea.
> > >
> > > 2008/6/27 Loïc Marteau <loic.marteau at gmail.com>:
> > > > Hello !
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if this has already been talked but i would like to open a
> > > > thread about the frame draws by the applet handle.
> > > > For people wo doesn't know well plasma terminology I talk about the
> > > > configuration frame who appears when mouse is over a plasmoid so the
> > > > user can resize, rotate, configure or move the plasmoid on the
> > > > Desktop
> > > >
> > > > My personal opinion is that this frame is not very pretty and that
> > > > there is not interest to make it an entire frame around the applet.
> > > > So I feel that it disturbs the user visually and functionally
> > > > speaking.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps we can :
> > > >
> > > >    * just keep the small area who contains the icons, and add a move
> > > > icon. * better imho to a maximum reduce the visual pollution : add a
> > > > cashew for that ! on the top right corner of each applets
> > > >          o The cashew let appears icons and text for each possible
> > > >            action when mouse is over the cashew and not on mouse
> > > > click so we don't need to make one more click than before for doing
> > > > the same thing.
> > > >          o Like first solution, add a move icon.
> > > >    * Other ideas...
> > > >
> > > > What do you think about ?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers !
> > > >
> > > > Loic
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