[Bug 154535] ability to remove zoom in/out tool like any other applet

[Josh Berry]

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------- Additional Comments From des condordes net  2008-06-23 09:08 -------
On Sunday 22 June 2008 22:10:55 Aaron J.Seigo wrote:
> also keep in mind that anything you haven't known before is "unintuitive".
> that includes the nipple (no, i'm not joking; and yes, that's a Steve Jobs
> reference).


Let me clarify my question: How are people supposed to make the connection 
between "get rid of that annoying cashew-thing in the corner" and "change my 
desktop containment"?

> i'm tired of dealing with this issue, mostly because the comments here are
> from people who seem to feel they understand something they have really
> very little understanding of.


Let me explain what I do understand:

(a) I have a nifty Plasma desktop, with applets and panels and things on it.  
(Cool.)
(b) I can do everything I need with the context menu.  (Also cool.)
(c) There's this toolbox thingy I never use taking up space in the corner.  
(Eh, it's not hurting anyone.)
(d) Short of patching, I can't get the thingy to go away.  (Frickin' 
annoying.)

I'm not sure how a greater understanding of the Plasma vision/architecture is 
at all relevant to the above.  Yes, there may be a whole host of 
architectural/design reasons why the above are true.  But none of those 
reasons fix my problem.

> watch how things evolve, by all means. you won't be disappointed. perhaps
> that makes it a bit more frustrating too: we're working to get everything
> in place where everyone can be happy and while we do so people continue to
> waste time with these discussions as if nothing is happening.


Maybe.  You have yet to explain to me how you're planning to solve my problem.  
All I've read from you in this bug amounts to hand-waving, and really 
complicated ways of saying "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, so STFU!".

I won't be disappointed?  Great!  HOW will I not be disappointed?  How does 
your Plasma vision include a solution to this bug report?

I understand these are hard (that is, frustrating and/or annoying) questions.  
And if they're really that frustrating, maybe walking away for a bit is a good 
thing.  But when you have calmed down, please do us the professional courtesy 
of answering them.