[Panel-devel] Pidgin crashing in kde4

[Thomas Fjellstrom]

On Tue December 4 2007, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 December 2007, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > On Wednesday 05 December 2007 11:41:26 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> > > On 04.12.07 18:13:47, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > > we either disable argb visuals in plasma or else the gtk people fix
> > > > their code.
> > >
> > > The latter is not going to happen that fast. Is disabling those argb
> > > visuals a real option (at least for 4.0)? I mean "real" as in, it
> > > doesn't make the systray look or behave badly.
>
> it's not about the systray, it's about making the rest of plasma and
> krunner look like ass. things affected include:
>
> - dashboard
> - panel translucency
> - krunner's interface
> - the popups being introduced as Plasma::Dialog
>
> > The system tray actually behaves better with ARGB visuals disabled due to
> > other bugs in Qt. It's entirely possible that the workaround in place is
> > what is "causing" GTK apps to crash. ;)
>
> without that workaround, gtk icons don't show either though. so it's a
> common issue.
>
> > If plasma goes without ARGB visuals for 4.0, I think the best case is
> > that toolkits attempt to fix things but a other issues pop up after ARGB
> > visuals are reenabled in 4.1. Not putting down the toolkits, here; it's
> > just that unhandled corner-cases are invariably found after putting code
> > into the wild.
>
> yep. and by "corner case" we mean "obvious things once you use pretty much
> any real application using argb" ... which says to me: nobody has really
> done this before. which is pathetic.

though I'm not a contributor (yet), I say keep argb. Let people fix their 
bugs.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
tfjellstrom at strangesoft.net