[Panel-devel] Quick comment on Marc Cramdal's ALI blog

[Wade Olson]

Sure.

Although with current kicker habits, it could be confusing and would need 
more thought. 

Example: You could have Kate in an application bundle, but you've opened 2 
other instances of Kate. So Kicker stacks 2 versions of Kate together, and 
then your bundle is shown on Kicker. Does the bundle-Kate instance go in the 
bundle and *also* the 2 stacked instances or not? 

But finding the way to have an app bundle show on kicker would be nice. 
Clicking on it could show the apps in the bundle, and maybe hovering on it 
could show the number of apps, memory used, datetime clicked, etc.

The general idea of application bundles have many peripheral concepts to 
them as well.
* Pre- and post- processing. Do you want to do something to be done before 
or after launch (I guess conceptually like an isapi/nsapi filter)? Start up 
apache or postgres?
* Application launch parameters: When you launch your "Developer" role 
bundle, do you want to check out from subversion or have each application 
launch with command-line arguments?
* Desktop grouping: Maybe clicking on the bundle in Kicker "upsizes" or 
maximizes all of them at once. Maybe like a Visio block of objects, they're 
dragged around the screen together? Hold the ctrl/shift/alt key down and you 
get the outline of the group and can move them about (to front/to back would 
be userful), or drag them together to another desktop on Kicker. Maybe 
Kompose treats them as one unit if you want, or alt-tab treats them as one.

Who knows...treating a logical bundle as an atomic unit opens a lot of 
possibilities both inside/outside of Plasma.

Yeah, you can write a single shell script to start a web server, db server, 
and launch application with input args. But until korn shell supports 
transparency and shimmer effects, I'll continue to drone on about other 
options.

On 7/21/05, Jeremy Volkman <jvolkman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I've been lurking around this list for a while but haven't actually posted 
> yet.
> 
> I really like the idea of user-defined application bundles. I often
> find myself launching the same group of applications for a specific
> task. Maybe also give an option to somehow keep the applications
> grouped together on the taskbar?
> 
> Jeremy
> ('dwango' on freenode)
> 
> On 7/21/05, Wade Olson <wadejolson at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1) Metadata: He mentions about hovering over an application and 
> receiving
> > information about the application before launch (through Konqi/Clippy or
> > otherwise). I like this idea quite a bit. Last launch, 'About' 
> information
> > (version, etc), and the same brief description that Kicker gives would 
> be
> > quite useful. Especially to new Linux users that are staring down 45 
> email
> > client options (shame on you distros). For those minimalists, maybe an 
> info
> > toggle might appease?
> >
> > 2) Application Launching in general: I'd to hear people's thoughts on
> > application bundles. People in different roles may consistently launch 
> the
> > same group of applications. One example would be the group that you have
> > start automatically on boot-up. A developer may want KDevelop, a DB 
> client,
> > Konqeror and a code profiler to launch together. So maybe letting a user
> > define a logical bundle of similar apps, and displaying those bundles 
> for
> > launch (with corresponding bundle CRUD window) could be slick on the 
> ALI.
> >
> > Wade
> >
> >
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