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Thu Aug 25 14:47:23 CEST 2005
<br>
"The site is currently pretty sparse, but that's where the users come<=
br>
in :-) I started a little bit of my personal developer page showing<br>
off some of my work on Extenders, and Aaron has been filling out the<br>
news section as time permits, but it's really up to the community to<br>
use this or not at this point. I, for one, hope we do!"<br>
<br>
<br>
So people:<br>
1) This wiki should only have content for contributors that have
experience on this new project that doesn't yet exist and are familiar
with an undocumented project.<br>
2) Please write public documentation in accordance with private undocumente=
d conversations.<br>
<br>
"the point of the wiki is not to inform new people, but to help
developers who are already familiar with the project work
together." Ahhh KDE, where 99% of the projects beg for new blood=
,
and the other 1% actively turn people away.<br>
<br>
As wiki administrator, I'd recommend that you place guidance on your
expectations for content and growth on the site itself. Posting
stances on this mailing fall into the very trap of: "tracking the
progress of the plethora of ideas revolving around Plasma has been
somewhat troublesome, as they are scattered throughout the usual
channels (IRC,mailing list, kde-artists forum)".<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Wade<br>
<br>
<br>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 8/25/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">=
Matt Broadstone</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:mbroadst at gmail.com">mbroadst at gmai=
l.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-le=
ft: 1ex;">
On 8/25/05, Wade Olson <<a href=3D"mailto:wade at corefunction.com">wade at co=
refunction.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I agree.<br>><br>>&n=
bsp; You must have been spying on me through my webcam (need...more...=
tinfoil)<br>> as I updated about 10 wiki pages last night.
<br>><br>> Alas, it's 5:15 am now and I have to drive stra=
ight to a consulting<br>> engagement in another state. But I =
will try to put in some of this<br>> information later tonight.<br>><=
br>> Thanks,
<br>> Wade<br>><br>><br>><br>> Vinay K=
haitan wrote:<br>> Don't you think, All of this should have g=
one to plasma Wiki ?<br>> Well, I already though about contacting Aaron.=
I really feel,<br>> manything is missing in plasma wiki for new develop=
ers. The wiki
<br>> should detail the process.<br>><br>No it should not.. Aaron and=
I talked about this when I was first<br>setting up the wiki. The wiki is n=
ot meant to be a place where you can<br>find out how to get involved and ge=
t started, but instead a place
<br>where you can find lots of specific reference information on the<br>int=
ernals of Plasma. For instance, this is the reason we have not<br>posted in=
structions on setting up the kde4 environment on the wiki,<br>information l=
ike this belongs on the main web page. A lot of wade's
<br>information is OK, but the point of the wiki is not to inform new<br>pe=
ople, but to help developers who are already familiar with the<br>project w=
ork together.<br><br>><br>> On 8/24/05, Wade Olson <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:wadejolson at gmail.com">
wadejolson at gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> Hi M=
arkus,<br>><br>> Thanks for the email and welcome!<br>>=
<br>> I know that interest is booming for Plasma, which is tu=
rning into both a<br>> blessing and a curse for Aaron. Hopefully with aK=
ademy coming up shortly,
<br>> more information and immediate tasks will be forthcoming.<br>><=
br>> In the interim, for people who are just joining this you=
ng project, can I<br>> recommend:<br>> * Give everyone a b=
rief synopsis of your background (student/professional,
<br>> home country, software experience, KDE experience)<br>> &n=
bsp;* List where you think you might fit in initially (and remember that no=
t<br>> everyone can just step in and do the fun work of drawing on a whi=
teboard and
<br>> having legions do their C++ bidding)<br>> * Do your =
project homework. Learn as much about Plasma as you can from:<br>> =
<a href=3D"http://plasma.kde.org/cms/1086">http://plasma.kde.org/cms/=
1086</a><br>>
<a href=3D"http://plasma.kde.org/wiki/">http://plasma.kde.org/wiki/</a><br>=
><br>> <a href=3D"http://kde-artists.org/main/component/option,com_sm=
f/Itemid,48/expv,0/board,5.0">http://kde-artists.org/main/component/option,=
com_smf/Itemid,48/expv,0/board,5.0
</a><br>> <a href=3D"http://appeal.kde.org/wiki/Appeal">http:=
//appeal.kde.org/wiki/Appeal</a><br>> <a href=3D"http://netdr=
agon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html">http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/s=
superkaramba.html</a>
<br>> (for historical reference)<br>> Competitive analysis=
: Apple, MS, Gnome, 3rd party widgets<br>> * Do your function=
al homework. For example, if you plan on helping with<br>> usability, ma=
ke sure you are familiar with sites like:
<br>> <a href=3D"http://www.openusability.org/">http://www.op=
enusability.org/</a><br>> <a href=3D"http://www.kde.org/areas=
/guidelines/html/">http://www.kde.org/areas/guidelines/html/</a><br>>&nb=
sp; (and many other interface guidelines...like=20
<a href=3D"http://apple.com">apple.com</a>'s work)<br>> Or, i=
f you plan on coding, of course you want to be familiar with:<br>> =
<a href=3D"http://developer.kde.org/">http://developer.kde.org/</a><b=
r>> <a href=3D"http://www.trolltech.com/developer/">
http://www.trolltech.com/developer/</a><br>> <a href=3D"http:=
//qtdeveloper.net/">http://qtdeveloper.net/</a><br>> Any site=
that help with OOA/OOD/Design Patterns<br>><br>> These si=
mple steps can help others learn more about you, help Aaron
<br>> organize skill sets and person-power, and minimize initial delays =
due to<br>> lack of preparation.<br>><br>> No matter ho=
w people feel about software development bureaucracy, there are<br>> ver=
y basic project planning and resourcing tasks that have to be coordinated
<br>> with such a large disparate group forming so quickly.<br>><br>&=
gt; Not only is Plasma going to be unbelievable, but it's really=
going to get<br>> people to learn about more sophisticated programming =
techniques, usability
<br>> and various testing methodologies. I'd say this group is a microco=
sm of<br>> what going to go on with KDE in general as it expreiences gro=
wing pains.<br>><br>> So welcome, and hold tight while thi=
ngs get organized, but hopefully
<br>> there's plenty everyone can do in the meantime to sharpen their sk=
ills and<br>> familiarity.<br>><br>> Wade<br>><br>&g=
t; *Note: This email does not necessarily reflect the views of t=
hose that know<br>
> their head from their arse.<br>><br>><br>><br>> On 8/24/05=
, Markus Hofmann <<a href=3D"mailto:markus.hofmann at gmail.com">markus.hof=
mann at gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> Hi everybo=
dy,<br>>
<br>> I want to join the plasma team too.<br>><br>> For four weeks=
I read an interesting article about the plasma project<br>> and I subsc=
ribed theailing list. With the help of Hans I got kde4<br>> compiled on =
my computer.
<br>><br>> I don't have experience in QT programming but I'm interest=
ed to learn.<br>><br>> I'm really motivated to help you.<br>><br>&=
gt; Greeting<br>><br>> Markus<br>> _______________________________=
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