[Owncloud] howto exclude translation, order of entries in localisation menu

Jan-Christoph Borchardt hey at jancborchardt.net
Thu Sep 5 08:45:03 UTC 2013

And next to what Christian mentions, I think we should actually get rid of
the German informal translation. Mostly we try to avoid using Du/Sie
altogether, and the cases where we need it do not really warrant
maintaining a whole different translation. Including all the confusion
which is which.

Frank, Thomas, what do you think?
On Sep 5, 2013 10:18 AM, "Christian Reiner" <foss at christian-reiner.info>

> Hello Stefan, hello all,
> On Thursday 05 September 2013 09:17:19 Stefan Vollmar wrote:
> > it is desirable (for many reasons) to have localisations of user
> interfaces
> > for as many languages as possible. However, OwnCloud ships with two
> German
> > versions, one of them quite informal. As our installation is for
> "official"
> > purposes only, the more formal version is the right choice. We already
> had
> > a case where somebody (unintentionally) selected the informal setting,
> then
> > shared a file by link - this could be potentially awkward: you do not see
> > the mail template which is sent to the recipient (and it is not suitable
> > for our purposes).
> actually in my eyes this shows up a more general problem. Your approach to
> solve your issue at hand by disabling a certain localization is the wrong
> one
> and steps short in my eyes:
> The templates chosen for outgoing messages should not depend on the session
> language chosen by the user at all! Those are two completely separate
> things!
> Imagine a foreign member of your company, say a russian speaking
> colleague. He
> intuitively would use the russian localization of owncloud if available.
> And
> this certainly totally makes sense, since this is what localizations are
> there
> for. But most likely you do not want outgoing messages to your customers
> to be
> in russian language, just because the user initiating the message uses a
> russian localization!
> It is a very typical pattern in software suites that localizations of the
> user
> session and of persistent content being generated must be independent.
> This is
> currently not the case, apparently.
> So in my eyes the correct solution to your problem would be to decouple
> these
> localization use cases instead of disabling a random localization set.
> Christian Reiner (arkascha)
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