[Owncloud] My feedback about ownCloud 5

Wed Jun 5 22:15:56 UTC 2013

For what it's worth, I'm testing ownCloud as an individual, before 
deciding to rely on it. I want to sync files between 2 or 3 computers; I 
am the only user, but I have a lot of data (about 500GB). Some of the 
data is big files (multi GB in a file, for video editing) and some of it 
is lots of small files (photo library or MP3 library).

However I've found it to be quite unreliable - often files get missed 
and not synced, duplicates/conflicts appear and other nasties I wouldn't 
expect. So it's a nice concept, but not quite ready to be trusted yet. I 
look forward to the day when I can retire my NFS share and filthy rsync 
script for broken two-way syncing :)

Cheers,
Jonathan

On 05/06/13 17:03, Bernhard Posselt wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> I used to think that too, but most of the people working on owncloud are
> free contributors and I think they see owncloud more as a platform than
> a file up- and download service.
>
> I for my part only use calendar, contacts and news and have never
> installed the sync client before. Also the whole sync and files stuff is
> incredibly complex plus its hard to make commits into core. And if
> something is not nice to work on, people wont.
>
> What I mean is: FOSS contributors work on what they like, what is fun to
> do. If someone steps up and enhances the UI its fine, he wouldnt have
> fixed the files stuff anyway. And many people simply dont care about the
> files stuff.
>
>
> On 06/05/2013 03:44 PM, Christian Dähn wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm CIO, too and have the same problems: I like OC and it's concept
>> but can't use it in production environments, yet...
>>
>> Currently I'm stucked to the 4.x release and follow this mailinglist
>> to findout, if the big problems with the sync clients are fixed and
>> the long term awaited encryption is available...
>>
>> Sadly my OC server is not used for over an half year now by our
>> users, because of serious bugs of the client (thousands of conflict files,
>> no sync and hughe traffic because of endless loops inside the client)...
>>
>> I would love to see these major problems solved and sometimes I'm
>> a little bit frustrated when I see, that devs spend their time make the
>> user interface more fancy etc.
>>
>> ciao,
>> Chris
>>
>>> On 5. Juni 2013 at 15:32 Dan O'Brien <danobrie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I think your sentiments are felt by many who had hopes of independent
>>> cloud storage in ownCloud. I agree, it is too buggy to actually use and
>>> be productive with on any kind of scale. With each release it gets
>>> marginally better, but it needs some sort of major overhaul in terms of
>>> sharing and the sync client among other issues.
>>>
>>> I like the concept as well, and I do think it will get there at some
>>> point and the developers are doing very nice work, but I think messages
>>> like these are important for newcomers to see to save them some time.
>>> It is just not reliable as it is today, owncloud needs people to bug
>>> test and provide feedback, my experience has told me as well it is not
>>> ready to replace your dropbox or gdrive or whatever, unless you are
>>> prepared to deal with issues on a very regular basis. Newcomers need to
>>> know that.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/4/2013 5:27 AM, Thomas ROBERT wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I'm using owncloud for a few month now and I would like to give you my
>>>> feedback about it. So this message is mostly for the developers of
>>>> ownCloud.
>>>>
>>>> Just to give you some context, I'm the "CIO" of an association and we
>>>> need a storage system.
>>>> The specifications of our system is:
>>>> - storage of the files on the cloud
>>>> - we have different folders, one for each of our activity (~ 3 Go,
>>>> mostly odp and pdf but also sometimes bigger files)
>>>> - 1 computer sync with all the files (synced with the master user)
>>>> - users that can have access to some of the folders of the master user
>>>> (sharing configuration chosen by this master user) and that need to be
>>>> able to sync them of their personal computer
>>>>
>>>> We first use Dropbox with its sharing option and client sync. A few
>>>> month ago, I chose to switch from Dropbox to ownCloud because it
>>>> seemed to have nice advantages (keeping files on my own server, having
>>>> the storage space I want, better managing of user accounts, calendar
>>>> function, etc.).
>>>>
>>>> Currently I must say that the sharing and deleting function of
>>>> owncloud is quite problematic regarding my intense usage of it, and
>>>> far away from those of Dropbox and Google Drive.
>>>> ownCloud is based on a very nice concept but still have - I think -
>>>> some very big issues to fix before being ready for a powerful use. I'm
>>>> having for example big difficulties with the client software (don't
>>>> sync, ...), with versionning and the deletion of shared files etc.
>>>>
>>>> I also feel like the development of ownCloud is either slow or focused
>>>> on things I don't see or use. When I propose a vital function
>>>> according to me, it seems that in your system it's impossible to be
>>>> done. Ex : https://github.com/owncloud/core/issues/3058
>>>> Maybe it's just because ownCloud is developed for another kind of
>>>> usage than mine. Maybe my usage is a bit particular. But if you think
>>>> modifying ownCloud to fit my usage is worth it, maybe you should
>>>> reconsider how some big feature like sharing or deleting works because
>>>> it seems to me that you are stuck with the way it currently works.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I love the concept of ownCloud, but I'm using it for quite a
>>>> while now and I'm now thinking of switching again for Google Drive
>>>> because of all the problems I'm having with ownCloud. And I'm quite
>>>> sad about it.
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to give you guys my feedback of this software that I do
>>>> love in the concept, even if I'm having problems with it.
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day.
>>>> Bye.
>>>> Thomas ROBERT
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