[Owncloud] adopting CoffeeScript in ownCloud

[Raghu Nayyar]

Hi,

I don't know if this is the right place to mail this. I had a conversation
with Jan Borchardt like 2 months ago, while I had started working on
Impressionist. He had suggested me to go for Struct which is more "up to
date and error free" as compared to Impressionist. I couldn't start at that
time being new to CoffeeScript for one reason and other being a notion that
no other app in ownCloud worked with CS.
Now, since the news app is working with CS (a big thumbs up :D) Can I also
begin including Struct. As we are done we can choose between which app to
keep, can be Impressionist or Struct. Both have their plus and minuses.

Thanks

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Raghu Nayyar <raghu.nayyar.007 at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Victor Dubiniuk <
> victor.dubiniuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It totally makes sense to me. Another good CS feature is a jslint
>> validation. It produces valid JS out of a box.
>> Write less, Do more :)
>>
>> ---
>> Victor
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Bernhard Posselt <nukeawhale at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> To clarify some things: I use it in the news app and im not planning on
>>> pushing anything coffeescript like into core.
>>>
>>> The selling points for me were:
>>>
>>> * I needed a buildscript to make sure that a certain js part was
>>> included before others (i use a cakefile for this)
>>> * I have 30 javascript files (coffee files atm) so listing all of them
>>> in my code before each controller method is not feasible, its also
>>> cumbersome to add new things
>>> * It shrinks down the lines of code from 2000 lines to 800
>>> * It provides nice patterns like easy inheritance which I need :) (class
>>> X extends Y is also easier to read than the whole prototype stuff to
>>> achieve the same things)
>>> * You can learn it fast, these are all features http://coffeescript.org/
>>>
>>> So basically the use is limited to the news app.
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2012 12:37 AM, Robin Appelman wrote:
>>> > On Sunday 25 November 2012 18:19:41 Alessandro Cosentino wrote:
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> In the last month, Bernhard (Raydiation) has created a branch of the
>>> apps
>>> >> repository, which he has used as a laboratory for introducing new
>>> >> technologies in the News app. The name of the branch is
>>> news_angularjs and
>>> >> CoffeScript (CS) is one of the technologies that he has tried out.
>>> Before
>>> >> merging the branch to master, I want to discuss with the rest of the
>>> list
>>> >> the adoption of CS in ownCloud.
>>> >>
>>> >> CS (http://coffeescript.org) is an alternative syntax for javascript
>>> (js),
>>> >> which is becoming widely used. CS code is trans-compiled into
>>> javascript,
>>> >> so this doesn't add dependencies for ownCloud users. CS code is
>>> supposed to
>>> >> be more readable than js and the compiled code is supposed to run
>>> faster
>>> >> than hand-written js. Bernhard can tell you more about the success of
>>> his
>>> >> experiments with CS in the news_angularjs branch.
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't want the News app to be the only ownCloud app to use CS. Many
>>> oC
>>> >> developers might already be comfortable with CS. If this is not the
>>> case, I
>>> >> don't want the app to be hard to maintain in the future because of
>>> this. I
>>> >> believe that people are willing to learn new things only if it's
>>> worth it
>>> >> and I am afraid that if the News app is the only app to use some
>>> >> technologies, people will just decide to work on other apps.
>>> >>
>>> >> What do you think about using CoffeScript in ownCloud? In the Getting
>>> >> Started section (http://owncloud.org/dev/apps/getting-started/), I
>>> read
>>> >> that jquery and torch are the libraries that we use, but I don't see a
>>> >> general policy about using different js things.
>>> >>
>>> >> Alessandro (zimba12)
>>> > I don't think it's a good idea to mix CS (or any complile-to-js
>>> language) with
>>> > vanilla js. It splits the code base in 2 and makes it more difficult
>>> for some of
>>> > the people to work on some of the code
>>> >
>>> > (Personally I prefer TypeScript over CS but that's beside the point)
>>> >
>>> >  - Robin Appelman
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-- 
Sincerely,
Raghu
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