[Owncloud] Gitorious vs Github

Mon Apr 30 21:04:50 UTC 2012

And as it is self-hosted, it is exclusive. People need to get an
account at our instance and there is no existing community. Even
though it’s open source, it definitely provides no upside over
Gitorious (which already has a community) – and definitely not over
Github.

Nowadays, it’s not enough to be just free software, it needs to
federate as well. Otherwise every installation is just an autonomous
island of users, hosted on a server you can not control.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Tom Needham <tom at owncloud.com> wrote:
> You install it on your own server - it's open source.
> Looks like it has been written in Rails.
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>
> Yes I have it on my own server. But repos are not available publicly. You
> have to have an account on it to even see the code.
>
> PS: LOL they host their own code on github ;-)
>
>
> Hehe yes I noticed!
>
> Tom
>
> Tom Needham
> tom at owncloud.com
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>
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> On 30 Apr 2012, at 22:00, Thomas Müller wrote:
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> Am Montag, dem 30.04.2012 um 22:56 schrieb Tom Needham:
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> I agree why not move to http://gitlabhq.com/
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> It is Open source and a github like
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>
> It does not offer public repos (afaik!).
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>
>
> You install it on your own server - it's open source.
> Looks like it has been written in Rails.
>
> Thomas
>
> PS: LOL they host their own code on github ;-)
>
> Tom Needham
>
> tom at owncloud.com
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>
>
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> On 30 Apr 2012, at 21:56, Francois Lacroix wrote:
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> I agree why not move to http://gitlabhq.com/
>
> It is Open source and a github like
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> On 30 avr. 2012, at 22:39, Tom Needham <tom at owncloud.com> wrote:
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>
> I'd also like to see us move over to Github for our repository hosting and
> issue tracker. I think it would be hugely beneficial to have an integrated
> issue tracker, where we can reference commits easily. As Georg also said, we
> would get tracker for each repo which would really help keep things
> organised.
>
>
> The current bug tracker (although functional) leaves a lot to be desired,
> and with every update they seem to introduce a different bug. Just look at
> http://bugs.owncloud.org/thebuggenie/issues/my if you haven't already. The
> page load times are also becoming unacceptable. We need to make it as easy
> as possible to keep things organised!
>
>
> If we moved to Github we would not have to worry about these problems and
> the user management would be integrated.
>
>
> I know it will be a pain to move, but I think it will pay off with a much
> better workflow afterwards.
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>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom
>
>
> Tom Needham
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> tom at owncloud.com
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>
> On 30 Apr 2012, at 15:49, Georg Ehrke wrote:
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>
> Hi,
>
> I can only agree to Jan.
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>
> Am 28.04.2012 um 22:43 schrieb Klaas Freitag:
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> On 28.04.2012 22:21, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:
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> Not to open a can of worms (again),
>
> lol
>
>
> ..[Github is more hip and better]..
>
>
> Software freedom – and in this case the freedom of the software we use
>
> for development – is just a means, not an end. Our goal is the freedom
>
> of others, that of the people we make the software for. And that can
>
> be achieved best&  fastest by using Github and by leveraging a vast
>
> range of enthusiastic developers&  designers which are, as it is,
>
> mostly on Github.
>
> This discussion is the "vi or emacs" discussion of these days. What you
> basically say is that for our goal to produce free software it does not
> matter if the basics we use for that is free, as long its the best.
>
>
> I heard that 100x and still I don't buy it. It's wrong. Freedom requires
> freedom,
>
> Linus actually hosted Linux on Github when kernel.org was down ;)
>
> its not working otherwise. Thought into an extreme, look how nice github
> could harm free software by simply switching off.
>
> Gitorious could switch off as well.
>
> (Yes, I also know that git is de-central, but still, you get the idea.
>
>
> Apart from that, I am tired of the discussion of course and don't really
> care from where I do git pull. The argument against our bugtracker however
> does not count for me here.
>
> I have to agree to Jan in this point too. Our Bugtracker works, but i would
> appreciate github issues.
>
> Further more we would have separated issue pages for the different
> repositories. (core, apps, desktop client, android client)
>
>
> regards,
>
> Klaas
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Georg
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Klaas Freitag<freitag at owncloud.com>  wrote:
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> On 27.04.2012 18:46, Georg Ehrke wrote:
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>
>
> Hi Georg,
>
>
>
> btw. i was always interested why we use gitorious and not github?
>
>
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> I think (and hope) that is because gitorious is free software while github
>
> is propietory. That is a value for us.
>
>
> regards,
>
>
> Klaas
>
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