[Owncloud] Movable Apps

Tom Needham tom at owncloud.com
Fri Apr 27 20:29:34 UTC 2012


> ok, and before that happens, I guess I will have two different
> installations of owncloud, one with the core apps and one with the
> apps from repo apps.

What about symlinking in the app that you are developing into the core apps folder?

Tom Needham
tom at owncloud.com



On 27 Apr 2012, at 21:27, Alessandro Cosentino wrote:

> ok, and before that happens, I guess I will have two different
> installations of owncloud, one with the core apps and one with the
> apps from repo apps.
> 
> thanks for the clarifications.
> 
> Alessandro
> 
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Georg Ehrke
> <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>> Am 27.04.2012 um 20:44 schrieb Alessandro Cosentino:
>> 
>>> well, then again: how do I use both at the same time the core apps
>>> from owncloud/owncloud.git and the apps from owncloud/apps.git?
>>> 
>>> I am sorry if I am missing something here.
>> They have to be in the same directory, therefore we are going to move the core apps to the app repo.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Georg Ehrke
>>> <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 19:12 schrieb Alessandro Cosentino:
>>>> 
>>>>> so what if I want to use both <path>/owncloud/apps and <path>/apps,
>>>>> which is the case I have in mind
>>>>> 
>>>> ownCloud would use <path>/owncloud/apps
>>>> It's the same for the 3rdparty folder
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Georg Ehrke
>>>>> <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 18:51 schrieb Alessandro Cosentino:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I believe there should be different branches of a single apps
>>>>>>> repository, rather than a different apps-playground repo. Merges with
>>>>>>> the master branch would be easier in this case.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> @Georg: maybe I don't understand it, you are suggesting something of this kind:
>>>>>>> <path>/owncloud/apps/
>>>>>>> <path>/apps
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> how do you specify which app folder should owncloud refer to?
>>>>>> First he reads the config file, after that he tries to use /path/ownCloud/apps and afterwords /path/apps.
>>>>>> If he wasn't able to found the app folder he dies and asks the user to add the path to the config file.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> Alessandro
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Frank Karlitschek <frank at owncloud.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 27.04.2012, at 18:42, Georg Ehrke <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 18:40 schrieb Georg Ehrke:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 18:27 schrieb Alessandro Cosentino:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> After those changes, I am a bit confused. Jakob and Jan suggested that
>>>>>>>>>>> I develop the feed reader app in the apps repo, since even core apps
>>>>>>>>>>> are going to move there. Two questions in particular:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. should I create a work branch of the apps repo or work in the
>>>>>>>>>>> master? I would say a work branch is better, since even core apps are
>>>>>>>>>>> going to move there. At the same time, I see that now all apps are
>>>>>>>>>>> developed in master (mail app, for instance);
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion we should create an apps-experimental repository where we can store apps that are unstable.
>>>>>>>>> I just saw that there is already a repository called apps-playground.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Exactly. You can use that if you want.
>>>>>>>> But a branch of the apps repo is also fine.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. locally where should I clone the apps repo? I figure that if I
>>>>>>>>>>> clone it in the owncloud/app sub-folder, things will get messed up
>>>>>>>>>>> with the two git configurations.
>>>>>>>>>> You can clone all in the same directory
>>>>>>>>>> e.g.:
>>>>>>>>>> /path/3rdparty
>>>>>>>>>> /path/apps
>>>>>>>>>> /path/owncloud
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Georg
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Alessandro
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Georg Ehrke
>>>>>>>>>>> <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 13:00 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27.04.2012, at 09:54, Georg Ehrke <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 26.04.2012 um 23:24 schrieb Thomas Müller:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, dem 26.04.2012 um 23:17 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26.04.2012, at 23:00, Thomas Müller <thomas.mueller at tmit.eu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will this also result in a movement of all apps from the owncloud repo to the apps repo?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are we also going to remove the 3rdparty files from the main repo?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We switch the the "3rdparty" repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool - will make app develoment easier as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How will the tar-balls on Release be created e.g. what will they contain?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This won´t change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We still ship the apps that we all decide with the tar file independently from the repo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially the last question is interesting from a distro packaging point of view (as I have it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I recently started to work on bringing ownCloud to the real Debian repo).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aka Sweet ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our plan is to bring OC4 to the next Debian stable (7 aka Wheezy).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A long way to go as some core dependencies are simple not there e.g. MDB2_Schema and SabreDAV.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to have a core tar ball only with the file and sync handling stuff (and maybe contacts and calendar).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An an additional tar ball containing the apps, which can then be packaged separately.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Thats possible now. And the good thing is that the apps can live outside the owncloud directory. I suppose thats should make packaging a bit more easy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For sure!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As off today the release tar ball 'only' contains the owncloud repo. Apps from the apps repo are not released at all. (By intention?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the future the release tarball can contain apps independently from the repo (core or apps).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas Müller                 E-Mail: thomas.mueller at tmit.eu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, dem 26.04.2012 um 22:49 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great work! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This means that the apps folder can now live outside the owncloud folder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26.04.2012, at 22:23, Georg Ehrke <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today i finished my work on movable apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will merge it tomorrow into master.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just merged it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important changes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       • files app moved to app folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               • there is still /owncloud/files/webdav.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       • php and css files will be loaded through /owncloud/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               • example:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       • /?app=files -> app
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       • /?app=files&getfile=/ajax/rename.php -> execute file of an app
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       • you can add %webroot% and %appswebroot% to css files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               • use in urls of background images
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       • please use our internal functions to generate paths
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               • js: OC.filePath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               • php: OC_Helper::linkTo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       • Files for *Dav and ampache are still in the app folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               • i think about creating a /owncloud/remote folder where apps can write the php files for their remote services
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       • what do you think about this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       • I made every app in main ownCloud repo work with this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Georg
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