[Owncloud] Movable Apps
Georg Ehrke
ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de
Fri Apr 27 20:01:51 UTC 2012
Am 27.04.2012 um 20:44 schrieb Alessandro Cosentino:
> well, then again: how do I use both at the same time the core apps
> from owncloud/owncloud.git and the apps from owncloud/apps.git?
>
> I am sorry if I am missing something here.
They have to be in the same directory, therefore we are going to move the core apps to the app repo.
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Georg Ehrke
> <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>> Am 27.04.2012 um 19:12 schrieb Alessandro Cosentino:
>>
>>> so what if I want to use both <path>/owncloud/apps and <path>/apps,
>>> which is the case I have in mind
>>>
>> ownCloud would use <path>/owncloud/apps
>> It's the same for the 3rdparty folder
>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Georg Ehrke
>>> <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 18:51 schrieb Alessandro Cosentino:
>>>>
>>>>> I believe there should be different branches of a single apps
>>>>> repository, rather than a different apps-playground repo. Merges with
>>>>> the master branch would be easier in this case.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Georg: maybe I don't understand it, you are suggesting something of this kind:
>>>>> <path>/owncloud/apps/
>>>>> <path>/apps
>>>>>
>>>>> how do you specify which app folder should owncloud refer to?
>>>> First he reads the config file, after that he tries to use /path/ownCloud/apps and afterwords /path/apps.
>>>> If he wasn't able to found the app folder he dies and asks the user to add the path to the config file.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Alessandro
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Frank Karlitschek <frank at owncloud.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27.04.2012, at 18:42, Georg Ehrke <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 18:40 schrieb Georg Ehrke:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 18:27 schrieb Alessandro Cosentino:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After those changes, I am a bit confused. Jakob and Jan suggested that
>>>>>>>>> I develop the feed reader app in the apps repo, since even core apps
>>>>>>>>> are going to move there. Two questions in particular:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. should I create a work branch of the apps repo or work in the
>>>>>>>>> master? I would say a work branch is better, since even core apps are
>>>>>>>>> going to move there. At the same time, I see that now all apps are
>>>>>>>>> developed in master (mail app, for instance);
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In my opinion we should create an apps-experimental repository where we can store apps that are unstable.
>>>>>>> I just saw that there is already a repository called apps-playground.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly. You can use that if you want.
>>>>>> But a branch of the apps repo is also fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. locally where should I clone the apps repo? I figure that if I
>>>>>>>>> clone it in the owncloud/app sub-folder, things will get messed up
>>>>>>>>> with the two git configurations.
>>>>>>>> You can clone all in the same directory
>>>>>>>> e.g.:
>>>>>>>> /path/3rdparty
>>>>>>>> /path/apps
>>>>>>>> /path/owncloud
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Georg
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Alessandro
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Georg Ehrke
>>>>>>>>> <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 27.04.2012 um 13:00 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 27.04.2012, at 09:54, Georg Ehrke <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 26.04.2012 um 23:24 schrieb Thomas Müller:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, dem 26.04.2012 um 23:17 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26.04.2012, at 23:00, Thomas Müller <thomas.mueller at tmit.eu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will this also result in a movement of all apps from the owncloud repo to the apps repo?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are we also going to remove the 3rdparty files from the main repo?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We switch the the "3rdparty" repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool - will make app develoment easier as well!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How will the tar-balls on Release be created e.g. what will they contain?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This won´t change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We still ship the apps that we all decide with the tar file independently from the repo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially the last question is interesting from a distro packaging point of view (as I have it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I recently started to work on bringing ownCloud to the real Debian repo).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aka Sweet ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our plan is to bring OC4 to the next Debian stable (7 aka Wheezy).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A long way to go as some core dependencies are simple not there e.g. MDB2_Schema and SabreDAV.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to have a core tar ball only with the file and sync handling stuff (and maybe contacts and calendar).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An an additional tar ball containing the apps, which can then be packaged separately.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Thats possible now. And the good thing is that the apps can live outside the owncloud directory. I suppose thats should make packaging a bit more easy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For sure!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As off today the release tar ball 'only' contains the owncloud repo. Apps from the apps repo are not released at all. (By intention?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the future the release tarball can contain apps independently from the repo (core or apps).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas Müller E-Mail: thomas.mueller at tmit.eu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, dem 26.04.2012 um 22:49 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great work! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This means that the apps folder can now live outside the owncloud folder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26.04.2012, at 22:23, Georg Ehrke <ownclouddev at georgswebsite.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today i finished my work on movable apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will merge it tomorrow into master.
>>>>>>>>>> I just merged it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important changes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • files app moved to app folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • there is still /owncloud/files/webdav.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • php and css files will be loaded through /owncloud/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • example:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • /?app=files -> app
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • /?app=files&getfile=/ajax/rename.php -> execute file of an app
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • you can add %webroot% and %appswebroot% to css files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • use in urls of background images
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • please use our internal functions to generate paths
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • js: OC.filePath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • php: OC_Helper::linkTo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • Files for *Dav and ampache are still in the app folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • i think about creating a /owncloud/remote folder where apps can write the php files for their remote services
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • what do you think about this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • I made every app in main ownCloud repo work with this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Georg
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