[Owncloud] Please put MB after the filesize in the "Files" view

Danial Bulloch dbulloch at bluepcsolutions.com
Thu Oct 13 16:54:32 UTC 2011


I completely agree that the defaults should the most sensible, but I
disagree that removing configuration is a good thing. I like the only
showing MB part, it's prettier than mixed units, but it also has
issues when files are in the kb or middle to upper GB range. Sure,
these days the biggest most files come is 4-8GB, so that isn't so big
of an issue. I do think the roll over for better scoped units is a
good idea, but personally I still think putting MB next to the file is
necessary for usability. When talking length, for example, you always
say "50 meters", even when it's clear that the object isn't 50mm or
50km away. When you are stating a measurement it is almost always best
to state the units.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:43 AM, Jan-Christoph Borchardt
<jan at unhosted.org> wrote:
> On Thu, October 13, 2011 05:06, Danial Bulloch wrote:
>> I noticed that afterwards. I suppose I can see the logic, but I
>> disagree that it is a good idea. Standard practice, of nearly every
>> file manager in the history of file managers is to show the units next
>> to it.
>
> Exactly, current standard practice for nearly every file manager is to mix
> up the units – which is stupid. It makes the column nearly useless because
> you can only check on the value for a specific file but not compare to the
> others. We will not copy bad design just to achieve "consistency".
> Currently, we even give bigger files a darker shade so that they are even
> easier identifiable (same for relative dates).
>
>
>> When I don't see MB, I just see a number that has an unknown
>> meaning. I realize that you will quickly learn that it is always in
>> MB, but it still feels off to me, redundant or not.
>
> You’ll get used to it. I hope that other file management programs follow
> the lead.
>
> I’m happy to see that most Dolphin file manager screenshots I see use the
> icon view as default. This would be a very nice thing for ownCloud 3 for
> sure. There it doesn’t even show the size or date.
>
>
>> I don't know how
>> granular the settings are going to going to get, but I'd be happy with
>> a toggle option somewhere in the main settings or even a config file
>> somewhere.
>
> Ideally the number of settings approaches zero. There will be no settings
> for everything, especially not interface preferences.
>
> Software is made to make people’s lives easier. It should be well designed
> from the outset and use sensible defaults.
>
>
>> I'm not a developer and don't plan on submitting code, so
>> if no unit is the way you guys want it, that's fine with me, just
>> thought I would share my thoughts on the topic.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Jan-Christoph Borchardt
>> <jan at unhosted.org> wrote:
>>> That is intended. The file size _always_ uses megabyte as a unit hence
>>> it
>>> would be useless to put it there because you know after the first time
>>> checking. Detailed info is available on hover. Also, when you hover the
>>> relative date, the absolute date will appear.
>>>
>>> On Wed, October 12, 2011 22:51, Danial Bulloch wrote:
>>>> I was looking at my owncloud list of files and noticed that the "size"
>>>> column is just a number. I know that it doesn't make a big difference,
>>>> but putting MB at the end makes it clear what that column is without
>>>> looking at the header, and the header doesn't specify what units the
>>>> size is in(1.21 Jiggabits?). If there is a reason that it isn't
>>>> there(besides maybe to save space), I'd be interested to know.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if this isn't the right place to make feature requests, I didn't
>>>> find anything on the site that suggested a better place. Also, I'd
>>>> submit a patch or something if I was the programmer type, but I can't
>>>> program my way out of a paper bag. I tried once, nearly suffocated,
>>>> which is actually harder that one might imagine with a paper bag.
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