[Owncloud] Re: Time to reach out to other projects?

[Frank Karlitschek]

Hi Jan,

I see the point and I agree mostly.
We have two BoF sessions at the Desktop Summit so I suggest to discuss this there in person.

I also have some concrete ideas and proposals for the future.


Cheers
Frank



On 25.07.2011, at 14:29, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:

> I agree 100% with what Aaron said.
> 
> Before I started contributing to ownCloud I thought it was a KDE project
> and to be honest, was almost put off by that. (Although I use GNOME and
> contributed to that & Ubuntu, I consider myself a web person above any
> desktop affiliation.)
> 
> The KDE community and infrastructure sure is great but I believe that
> there are "neutral" platforms which are even better. Such as Transifex and
> Gitorious, where the project was very visible and had 45 forks already.
> While I know this is not a measure, getting an account at KDE identity and
> requesting developer access is a hurdle. As primarily a web project we
> should power other free web platforms (as we already do with Identi.ca to
> an extent). I‘m not pushing for this but I think we should change sooner
> or later.
> 
> Though we are all volunteers we must understand that ownCloud has the
> potential to (or rather currently already is) the best free & open-source
> alternative to projects such as Dropbox & iCloud/MobileMe. Thus we have
> to, as Aaron said, embrace other web projects and not, if I may say so,
> limit us in the security that KDE offers. Nearly every day I see someone
> ask for a real Dropbox alternative and people have to refer to SpiderOak
> or Wuala which are not a solution.
> 
> We need to be more visible and (through that) more known. I‘m sure people
> can‘t wait to use & contribute to ownCloud.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, July 25, 2011 10:55, Aaron Reichman wrote:
>> Personally, I like the idea of strengthening our ties to other projects
> by
>> being a separate entity that interacts equally with everybody like
> Apache,
>> Wordpress and other server based projects. I think we run the risk of
> becoming the KDE cloud otherwise when we could be the open/free cloud.
> Nobody else is doing the things we're doing in the way we're doing them
> and
>> I think we should make the most of the situation we find ourselves in.
> Nothing stops us from being just as involved in KDE as we are now while
> becoming more involved with gnome, XFCE, enlightenment and whoever else
> wants to help us out.
>> 
>> That being said, I have no problems with being a KDE project, either.
> KDE
>> is
>> an amazing community and we should be proud to be a part of it. I just
> think
>> we can maintain a great relationship with KDE without sacrificing other
> possible relationships. Whatever the group decides I'm fine with, just
> wanted to put in my $0.02.
> 
> 


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Frank Karlitschek
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