[Owncloud] ownCloud and KDE

[kunal ghosh]

If moving to a hosting platform attracts more developers and at the same time,
lets us be a part of KDE I am totally in favor of the shift.

In that respect, I would suggest moving to github and use Jira as our
bug tracking system
1. More people are comfortable with github (the UI) as compared to gitorious.
2. JIRA a bug tracking and project management system (also used by
Tomahawk devs)
is tightly integrated to github
(https://plugins.atlassian.com/plugin/details/335252)

Please do share your thoughts / comments.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Robin Appelman <icewind1991 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree, moving back to gitorious while still being part of KDE will give us
> the best of both worlds.
>
> On Wednesday 17 August 2011 11:56:25 Frank Karlitschek wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> In the past few weeks we had some discussion in the ownCloud community about
>> the relationship between ownCloud and KDE. Some of our core people raised
>> the question if it is good for ownCloud to be a part of KDE or if it is
>> holding us back. Some users from the outside might consider ownCloud the
>> KDE only cloud solutions instead of a cross platform and cross desktop
>> software. Other developers think that it is overly complicated for new
>> contributors to use the KDE git infrastructure compared with independent
>> ones like github or gitorious. Other developers said that it is not obvious
>> to the outside that ownCloud is not using KDE libraries and people can
>> contribute without being a KDE developer or user.
>>
>> After some discussion on the mailinglist, during our BoF session, on IRC and
>> in person I want to summarize the arguments and suggest a solution.
>>
>> I think that KDE is a great community and a very welcoming place for
>> developers. ownCloud is not a typical KDE project but we can benefit a lot
>> from being a part of KDE.
>>
>> Being part of KDE
>> - Infrastructure like wiki, mailinglists, bugtracker, ..
>> - Friendly community
>> - Organizational and financial support from KDE e.V.
>> - Possibility to market ownCloud together with other KDE software.
>> - We share the same goals
>>
>>
>> Being independent from KDE
>> - Better outreach to contributors outside KDE. (He had over 40 clones of
>> ownCloud on gitorious but only a fraction on the current KDE git. We
>> currently have external clones on gitorious and github. This shows that not
>> every contributor is happy with developing at the KDE sever, but we don´t
>> want to lose those developers, it´s easier to attract new php developers
>> outside KDE)
>>
>> - We don´t profit a lot from the benefits of the central KDE repo like
>> translations, buildsystem, SC releases and so on.
>>
>> - gitorious/github has a less steep learning curve.
>> (I helped a few new developers to contribute to ownCloud lately and I agree
>> that github and gitorious are significantly more straight forward for
>> beginners)
>>
>> - Better workflow for web applications (transiflex, …)
>>
>>
>> For me the solution is obvious. I want ownCloud to stay a KDE project
>> because KDE is a great community with great people. ownCloud and KDE share
>> the same goals als Stu described in his Desktop Summit keynote. But we
>> should move our main git repository to gitorious again because this fit´s
>> our needs better and we can attract more php developers more easily. There
>> is also other KDE software which is hosted outside the main KDE repository
>> and I don´t think it is a requirement for being part of KDE. This means
>> that the KDE sysadmin won´t help us with the administration of the repos of
>> course but I think we can handle it because we also did this in the past.
>>
>> I think this is a good solution, which combines the wishes of both groups.
>> So I suggest moving the ownCloud repo back to gitorious.org/owncloud at the
>> end of this month if no one objects.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> Frank Karlitschek
>> karlitschek at kde.org
>>
>>
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regards,

Kunal Ghosh