[Open-collaboration-services] OCS reminder

Frank Karlitschek karlitschek at kde.org
Fri Jul 23 10:07:37 CEST 2010


Hi Bob,

you can always get all the categories with the "categories" call and than use the categories you want to search in.

I think this should be O.K. for all use-cases.

What do you think?


Cheers
Frank


On 19.07.2010, at 21:08, Spencer, Bob wrote:

> Thinking specifically, I want "Bob Muscle Builder" app but I don't know the category name.  I know it isn't Music or Graphics...  How do I search?
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Karlitschek [mailto:karlitschek at kde.org] 
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 4:57 AM
> To: Mateu Batle
> Cc: Frederik Gladhorn; henri.bergius at nemein.com; daniel wilms; Wu, Jackie; Spencer, Bob; Cornelius Schumacher
> Subject: Re: OCS reminder
> 
> Hi Mat,
> 
> hmmm. Good questions.
> I think you should alway provide a category because you never know what you get from the server otherwise. For example openDesktop.org supports more and more "random" content types. I don´t think it is a good idea for a client to request "everything" from a server because this could break in the future when the server supports more stuff.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Frank
> 
> 
> On 15.07.2010, at 17:12, Mateu Batle wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> One additional comment, according to the current implementation if no 
>> categories are specified in a content search, no results are returned.
>> Don't know if it is just a bug, or the intended behavior.
>> 
>> I'd like to change it so if no categories are provided then it 
>> searches in all categories, what do you think ?
>> 
>> best regards
>> Mat
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/15/2010 04:23 PM, Mateu Batle wrote:
>>> Wow, great work Frank !
>>> 
>>> some comments:
>>> 
>>> * typo: collabroation
>>> 
>>> * I am a bit worried with person search and get, and the fact that 
>>> anybody could get a list of people with information about them. The 
>>> 1000 limit I guess is just for every call, right ? Some ideas:
>>>   * Do some kind of trust relationship (or use friends in that way).
>>> Service only offered to someone trusted, someone has to trust me. And 
>>> we keep some info in the server of who trusted who. There should be a 
>>> way to trust people who doesn't know anybody trusted.
>>>   * Limit the information provided by person search. And also it 
>>> should be very clear to the user which information is public and 
>>> which is not.
>>> 
>>> * Also, not an urgent thing, but something for maybe version 2.0. 
>>> Most of the services don't explain the actual fields of information 
>>> recovered, just put an example of that. The example is good, but 
>>> sometimes more info is needed. Also a DTD or some type of schema for 
>>> 2.0 would be great.
>>> 
>>> * friends: tag user is used instead of person.
>>> 
>>> * I am not very focused on stuff like contacts, messages, 
>>> invitations, but just throwing out the idea for discussion for 2.0: 
>>> maybe it would be better to rethink it, and reuse something existing 
>>> like XMPP / some mail protocol, etc. It looks like similar to those in some aspects.
>>> 
>>> * categories, I see now mention about string ids for categories or 
>>> elsewhere.
>>> 
>>> * licenses, also how they should be handled ? Should we give a list 
>>> of the ids or refer to liblicense ?
>>> 
>>> * content list:
>>> * still uses "x" as category separator at some places.
>>> 
>>> * I've not seen a way to get the user voting for a content. Is it 
>>> possible to add a field ? It would be 1 to 10. 0 if not rated yet.
>>> 
>>> * I think dc:type is used now instead of dc.type (Henri ?)
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> Mat
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 07/13/2010 11:58 PM, Frank Karlitschek wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> 
>>>> I have finished a draft for OCS 1.6 as discussed last week.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/open-collaboration-se
>>>> rvices-draft
>>>> 
>>>> Feedback welcome. :-)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> Frank
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 13.07.2010, at 11:37, Frank Karlitschek wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13.07.2010, at 10:14, Mateu Batle wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Mat
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> just an email to remember things that need to be done:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Write OCS 1.6 draft spec
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Working on it at the moment. Sorry for the delay.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Create OCS and/or libattica mailing list
>>>>>> 
>>>>> We requested this from the freedesktop.org admins but still no response.
>>>>> I suggest we wait for a few more days and then go with a kde.org mailinglist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Any comments on the last emails I sent just after the meeting .... ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> All great ideas. :-) I will add them to the draft.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> any time estimates on when this is going to be started ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I got KDE svn access, so I will start applying the patches I have, 
>>>>>> and start working on OCS 1.6 support in libattica.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Great!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I include in the cc, Bob Spencer, leader of Meego Garage in Intel 
>>>>>> and Jackie Wu, developer in Intel, both interested in all this stuff.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Great. Welcome. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>> Mateu
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Frank
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Frank Karlitschek
>>>>> karlitschek at kde.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Frank Karlitschek
>>>> karlitschek at kde.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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