Add autosave function to Okular
Wen Chang
changyaowen19980629 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 22 06:28:12 BST 2024
> Exactly, auto save is just not how desktop software generally works.
>
> Cheers,
> Albert
Could we implement the backup method for Okular?
Best,
Wen
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> 1. [okular] [Bug 490337] Allow to get PDF passwords from a
> org.freedesktop.secrets service (yan12125)
> 2. [okular] [Bug 490337] Allow to get PDF passwords from a
> org.freedesktop.secrets service (Albert Astals Cid)
> 3. Re: Add autosave function to Okular (Albert Astals Cid)
> 4. Re: Add autosave function to Okular (Wen Chang)
> 5. [okular] [Bug 490435] New: printing from the selected range
> of pages does not work correctly (Nazar)
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> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 13:59:53 +0000
> From: yan12125 <bugzilla_noreply at kde.org>
> To: okular-devel at kde.org
> Subject: [okular] [Bug 490337] Allow to get PDF passwords from a
> org.freedesktop.secrets service
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> --- Comment #2 from yan12125 <yu3actxt2tttfimx at chyen.cc> ---
> Ah, I forgot the main point: I use neither KDE nor kwalletd. Instead, I use
> KeePassXC as a cross-platform solution to manage all my secrets. That
> program
> also provides org.freedesktop.secrets service like kwalletd. If Okular
> supports
> org.freedesktop.secrets, I can just use KeePassXC instead of setting up
> another
> secrets service for PDF passwords.
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> From: "Albert Astals Cid" <bugzilla_noreply at kde.org>
> To: okular-devel at kde.org
> Subject: [okular] [Bug 490337] Allow to get PDF passwords from a
> org.freedesktop.secrets service
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> --- Comment #3 from Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> ---
> Ok, i guess that makes some sense, I wouldnt' be against such feature.
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> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:22:41 +0200
> From: Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org>
> To: okular-devel at kde.org
> Subject: Re: Add autosave function to Okular
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> El dimecres, 17 de juliol del 2024, a les 7:26:20 (CEST), Laura David
> Hurka va
> escriure:
> > On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 11:01:53 +0800 Wen Chang wrote:
> > > I can do it that way by saving the changes in a backup file.
> > >
> > > I would like to know why modifying the file on disk without user
> > > interaction is a bad idea based on your experience.
> > >
> > > Also, I noticed that VSCode automatically saves changes once they are
> > > made.
> > > To my knowledge, only the file that the user is working on will be
> > > modified.
> > >
> > > What drawbacks would there be if a file is directly modified without
> user
> > > interaction?
> >
> > Drawback would be that it is unusual and unexpected for many users
> (unless
> > the user explicitly configured it that way).
> >
> > Imagine you have a form that you need to fill out often, and then just
> print
> > once.
> > If changes are saved automatically, you can’t use the file the next time
> > anymore, because it is already filled.
> >
> > It would also not make much sense with “Open...”, “Save”, and “Save
> As...”.
>
> Exactly, auto save is just not how desktop software generally works.
>
> Cheers,
> Albert
>
> >
> > Laura
>
>
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>
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:28:31 +0800
> From: Wen Chang <changyaowen19980629 at gmail.com>
> To: okular-devel at kde.org
> Subject: Re: Add autosave function to Okular
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> That's indeed the concern of the autosave method.
> Thanks for letting me know.
> About your concern, I provide my suggestion as follows:
>
> > Drawback would be that it is unusual and unexpected for many users
> (unless the
> > user explicitly configured it that way).
>
> The autosave function is disabled by default. Once the user clicks the
> button to turn it on, changes will be saved automatically. This ensures
> that users are aware they are in autosave mode. Additionally, autosave will
> remain enabled the next time the user opens Okular.
>
> Does implementing the method this way make more sense? Feel free to let me
> know.
> > If changes are saved automatically, you can’t use the file the next time
> > anymore, because it is already filled.
>
> In this situation, I suggest saving a backup file whenever the user closes
> Okular. This would create a list of backup files in a folder located in the
> same directory as the document. Users would then be able to roll back by
> checking different versions of the backup files.
>
> To my understanding, the current policy in Okular does not allow users to
> revert to the original version of a file once they have saved it manually,
> right? Please correct me if I am mistaken. Thanks.
>
> Best,
> Wen
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> > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 07:26:20 +0200
> > From: Laura David Hurka <laura.stern at mailbox.org>
> > To: okular-devel at kde.org
> > Subject: Re: Add autosave function to Okular
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> > On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 11:01:53 +0800 Wen Chang wrote:
> > > I can do it that way by saving the changes in a backup file.
> > >
> > > I would like to know why modifying the file on disk without user
> > > interaction is a bad idea based on your experience.
> > >
> > > Also, I noticed that VSCode automatically saves changes once they are
> > made.
> > > To my knowledge, only the file that the user is working on will be
> > modified.
> > >
> > > What drawbacks would there be if a file is directly modified without
> user
> > > interaction?
> >
> > Drawback would be that it is unusual and unexpected for many users
> (unless
> > the
> > user explicitly configured it that way).
> >
> > Imagine you have a form that you need to fill out often, and then just
> > print
> > once.
> > If changes are saved automatically, you can’t use the file the next time
> > anymore, because it is already filled.
> >
> > It would also not make much sense with “Open...”, “Save”, and “Save
> As...”.
> >
> > Laura
> >
> >
> >
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> From: Nazar <bugzilla_noreply at kde.org>
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> Subject: [okular] [Bug 490435] New: printing from the selected range
> of pages does not work correctly
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> Bug ID: 490435
> Summary: printing from the selected range of pages does not
> work correctly
> Classification: Applications
> Product: okular
> Version: 23.08.1
> Platform: Microsoft Windows
> OS: Other
> Status: REPORTED
> Severity: normal
> Priority: NOR
> Component: printing
> Assignee: okular-devel at kde.org
> Reporter: nazar2692 at gmail.com
> Target Milestone: ---
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> SUMMARY
> printing from the selected range of pages does not work correctly
>
> STEPS TO REPRODUCE
> 1. File
> 2. Printing
> 3. Pages: page range 1,3,5
> 4. Button - Print
>
> OBSERVED RESULT
> prints only the currently displayed page, rather than the selected page
> range
>
> EXPECTED RESULT
>
>
> SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
> Windows: Windows 11 Home
> macOS:
> Linux/KDE Plasma:
> (available in About System)
> KDE Plasma Version:
> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.109.0
> Qt Version: 5.15.10
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