[Okular-devel] Dt. 6th August - status

Thu Aug 8 20:06:18 UTC 2013

yes it won't wait

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:

> El Divendres, 9 d'agost de 2013, a les 01:11:25, Jaydeep Solanki va
> escriure:
> > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> > > El Dijous, 8 d'agost de 2013, a les 01:36:12, Jaydeep Solanki va
> escriure:
> > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > El Dijous, 8 d'agost de 2013, a les 01:09:27, Jaydeep Solanki va
> > >
> > > escriure:
> > > > > > Yes I know I have not took care of it here, I just wanted to show
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > approach. And I still have no clue on how to delete the static
> > >
> > > object.
> > >
> > > > > > I tried QScopedPointer, it doesn't help
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And what to do with the clone method, I mean it's not virtual,
> can't
> > > > > > include EpubDocument because of circular dependency, then ?
> > > > > > Those were the two I can think of.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, what's the point in fixing B if it needs A and you don't know
> > >
> > > how to
> > >
> > > > > fix
> > > > > A?
> > > >
> > > > But don't you think both A and B in this case can be solved
> > >
> > > independently,
> > >
> > > > because if I first fix threading and then fix the cloning issue, I
> just
> > > > have to replace the name of the method.
> > > >
> > > > For me it's totally okay, to fix resource loading issue first.
> > > >
> > > > You have got any ideas, on how to avoid cyclic dependency and clone
> it ?
> > >
> > > Why do you need to clone it
> >
> > I clone because I read it
> > here<
> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/threads-modules.html#threads-and-rich->
> text-processing> .
>
> Ok, that's most probably a non issue nowadays when a QPixmap is basically
> thread friendly in almost most platforms, but ok.
>
> >
> > > , i'm still waiting for the answer to
> > >
> > > "Why would the UI thread have to wait?"
> >
> > it wouldn't have to wait if two different mutexes are used.
>
> If all the rendering is done in the second thread, why is the UI thread
> waiting for a mutex at all?
>
> Cheers,
>   Albert
>
> >
> > > Albert
> > >
> > > > > Please concentrate on doing first things first.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > >   Albert
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Albert Astals Cid <
> aacid at kde.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > El Dijous, 8 d'agost de 2013, a les 00:37:42, Jaydeep Solanki
> va
> > > > >
> > > > > escriure:
> > > > > > > > I tried a lot of approaches for TextDocument threading and
> > >
> > > finally I
> > >
> > > > > > > > settled to a really simple approach (as it makes generator
> > >
> > > threaded
> > >
> > > > > as
> > > > >
> > > > > > > well
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > as gives best performance), diff attached.
> > > > > > > > I just want to ask, how to know when the document is closed
> and
> > > > >
> > > > > delete
> > > > >
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > pointer, because now if I close a document and open another
> > >
> > > document
> > >
> > > > > > > images
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > displayed are of the previous document.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How does this fix the incorrect loadResource being called?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Albert
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Fabio D'Urso <
> > >
> > > fabiodurso at hotmail.it>
> > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 07, 2013 12:31:41 AM Albert Astals Cid
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > El Dimarts, 6 d'agost de 2013, a les 20:52:25, Jaydeep
> > >
> > > Solanki
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > va
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > escriure:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have implemented a simple Qt Visibility support,
> which
> > >
> > > hides
> > >
> > > > > > > text,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > doesn't hide the exact area of the text, because the
> way
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > QTextDocument
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > developed it is impossible to implement an approach
> that
> > >
> > > hides
> > >
> > > > > > > only a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > of line. Either we can hide a line or not hide it.
> > > > > > > > > > > And implementing an approach in which incrementing the
> > >
> > > cursor
> > >
> > > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > inserting the text was my idea, but it seems they are
> > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > text
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > much that, I'm not able to get a way to exclude the
> text
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > > > > implement
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > visibility.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Before continuing to work on that, i think you should
> > > > > > > > > > explore
> > > > >
> > > > > with
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Qt
> > > > > > > > > > guys how feasible is this work to be accepted upstream
> with
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > known
> > > > > > > > > > limitations you mention, because if it's not going to be
> > > > >
> > > > > accepted,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > really useful for us since we can't expect people to
> patch
> > >
> > > their
> > >
> > > > > Qt
> > > > >
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > us.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the threaded QTextDocument, I tried the
> approach
> > >
> > > you
> > >
> > > > > > > said,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > seems that it is also blocking UI, even more then
> single
> > > > >
> > > > > threaded.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Suppose
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm on a page and the next page is loading in other
> > > > > > > > > > > thread,
> > > > >
> > > > > the UI
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > thread
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > will have to wait till the other thread finishes it's
> job
> > > > >
> > > > > (because
> > > > >
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > locking), which takes a bit more time than usual
> because
> > >
> > > it is
> > >
> > > > > > > > > generated
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > from a cloned QTextDocument.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why would the UI thread have to wait?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Disclaimer: I haven't read the whole discussion, so this
> idea
> > > > > > > > > might
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > not be
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > applicable. If I understood correctly, there's some object
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > >
> > > > > needs
> > > > >
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > cloned because its methods are not reentrant, but cloning
> is
> > > > > > > > > expensive.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I was thinking about keeping a pool of clones, initially
> > > > > > > > > containing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > only
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > instance, and adding a new clone to the pool when an
> instance
> > >
> > > is
> > >
> > > > > > > requested
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > there are no readily available ones.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Of course this approach, if feasible at all, will waste
> > > > > > > > > memory.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Depending
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the size of the object it might pay or not.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the clone method overriding in EpubDocument,
> I'm
> > > > >
> > > > > using a
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > dynamic
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > property, to store the name of the generator, and
> using it
> > >
> > > I
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > method to call EpubDocument::myClone() or
> > > > >
> > > > > QTextDocument::clone()
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > TextDocumentGenerator.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You can't call EpubDocument::myClone in
> > >
> > > TextDocumentGenerator,
> > >
> > > > > that
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > introduces a circular dependency.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > One more thing I noticed about Okular is it doesn't
> free
> > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > memory,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > the document is closed, it frees after Okular quits,
> so my
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > question is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > it use the memory (cached pixmaps) when I load the same
> > > > >
> > > > > document
> > > > >
> > > > > > > again
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nope, it should free it, if it doesn't it's a bug that
> has
> > >
> > > to be
> > >
> > > > > > > fixed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I remember reading somewhere that most free()
> implementations
> > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > return the memory back to the OS, instead they keep free'd
> > >
> > > blocks
> > >
> > > > > in a
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > internal pool for future reuse. Eventually, when the
> process
> > >
> > > dies,
> > >
> > > > > all
> > > > >
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > its
> > > > > > > > > memory is reclaimed back by the OS.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As Albert said, Okular does "free" pixmaps, but maybe you
> see
> > >
> > > that
> > >
> > > > > > > > > behavior
> > > > > > > > > for this reason.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Makes sense.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >   Albert
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Jaydeep
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
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