[Okular-devel] [Bug 265334] Duplicated entries of Okular in "Open With" -> "Other Application"

[raffamaiden]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265334





--- Comment #7 from raffamaiden <raffamaiden gmail com>  2011-02-05 01:28:47 ---
>>"Nautilus needs to display all installed applications in the "Open With"
menu,
>>because an application may not have an installed Mimetype, but still be
able to
>>open a file."
>This is a bug in said application.


> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html
> Table 2. Standard Keys reads:
> <quote>
> NoDisplay means "this application exists, but don't display it in the
> menus".
> </quote>
>
> If whatever application ignores the NoDisplay entries in *.desktop files
> and
> adds the them to a context menu, it is from my PoV the one with the wrong
> behaviour wrt the .desktop standard.
>
>
That is the sort of things that make me want to abandon once for all linux
and opensource software in general and stick with Microsoft Windows (TM).

When there is a bug, or a feature that does not work as expected, the
maintainer of package A tells that the bug is in package B, and the
maintainer of package B tells that the bug is in package A. The result is a
holy war in which no one wins, giving that everyone blame the other and
no-one fix the bug. As the final result, the bug is still there and the
final end-user, who is not interested of whom the bug is or who is to blame
because he just cannot understand the words "standard", "desktop file" and
"NoDisplay entry" (yes, there are other subjects in real life, not only
informatics) have to deal with it without no-one that fix it, and he ends
leaving linux/ubuntu.  A final user does not want to read both opinions and
decide who is to blame, he just want to use his software out-of-the-box.
Stop.

And who makes a regular linux/ubuntu user angry is that the problem is not
that we cannot find the bug and so we cannot fix it. The problem is that we
(where 'we' means all the linux community) do not want to fix it, because
the responsibility is of the other.

Read this bug report:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/456093. The package
affected by the bug was changed 6 times. From okular to nautilus and back
again.

Of course this does not happen only to okular. It happens also to other
packages and I am criticizing generally the way in which the open source
community handle that sort of things. For example, plasma has a bug that
make part of the screen black like there is a hole. But don't tell them of
the bug: it's really a Xorg bug. And don't tell Xorg people they have a bug:
it is not their fault if plasma developers cannot interface properly with
Xorg.

Proprietary softwares are not like this: one decide for all and things must
work. in this way we are proving incontrovertibly that a software developed
by a community without a superior that decide for all is not possible. We
need a superior entity that decide who have the bug and who should fix it.

I'm just saying that sort of things is ridiculous. When this things happen,
we should work together and find a solution together, rather than blaming
one another for who is right and who is wrong. As we say in Italy, "we are
on the same ship". We all want to develop a free (in GNU sense) and open
piece of software, and that should be the target. So just find a solution
together. Ask freedesktop.org to specify what NoDisplay option really means.
Then ask nautilus people to follow the standard. If they don't, find a
workaround. Even if the counterpart does not want to talk, just find a
workaround by our side. Who cares if we lose the holy war, we don't even
wanted it to start.

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