[Okular-devel] [Bug 157284] Hide/move the page bottom bar

Maciej Pilichowski bluedzins at wp.pl
Sat Jan 9 16:25:49 CET 2010


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157284





--- Comment #52 from Maciej Pilichowski <bluedzins wp pl>  2010-01-09 16:25:37 ---
> what do you think about a
> solution similar to the one adopted by Gwenview for its sidebar
> (the “Splitter Collapser”,
> http://agateau.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/gwenview-2-3-sidebar/)?

I think it is cute but it is "does not work for everyone" solution in the first
place. The problem is the remaining tab, well, remains on the screen all the
time. 

For gwenview this issue is important, but for okular it is crucial.

> * PROS:
>   - People who want to hide the bottom bar could do it.

Actually on par -- with checkbox in the menu you could do this too.

>   - No need to add a new setting option.

But need to add new tab which has to be shown if you use it or not. On par.

>   - The bar could be easily restored if accidentally hidden, even
> by a novice user.

Yes, but this would be real advantage for menubar, because showing it again is
tricky. For pagebar it is advantage but minor.

>   - Already in use in other KDE software.

Checkboxes are far more common.

> * CONS
>   - Inconsistency with the other "hidable  bars".

Not only this. There is over decade of central UI design. You manage stuff from
one place. If you shift UI to object-centric it means:
* user has to re-learn
* user has to either learn keyboard shortcut or do extensive mouse movements 

>   - Some clutter on the GUI (the collapser would probably be too
> visible).

- The collapser is visible all the time, and there is no way to hide it.
- The collapser conflicts with content, gwenview is primary images viewer, with
okular I read documents, I would not like to be forced scrolling just to get
text pass the collapser so I could read it -- and I guess I am not alone. Non
regular obstacle would be more annoying that regular (like statusbar, toolbar
or sidebar).
- It is expensive. I mean adding checkbox is almost trivial, you either show
the bar or not. With collapser you have to add the logic -- is mouse over
collapser or not. Fade it out or not.


The most important -- did we see single report about problems with toolbar
checkbox? In any app. I mean -- that it caused clutter, it is not intuitive, it
is not productive, and so on? If not, it means checkbox works (it does not mean
that other approaches would not work).

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