[Nepomuk] The Nepomuk Situation

Sebastian Trüg trueg at kde.org
Wed May 16 18:46:26 UTC 2012


On 05/16/2012 08:37 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg at kde.org
> <mailto:trueg at kde.org>> wrote:
> 
>     On 05/16/2012 08:23 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
>     > What about kdelibs/nepomuk/utils/* and the other ui stuff?
>     >
>     > Or since those are just APIs they can wait.
> 
>     I say let's postpone them, they are still in kdelibs. 
> 
> 
>     The facets are quite weird and I am not sure about releasing them again.
>     The ui stuff - not sure.
> 
> 
> We have all the runtime stuff and nepomuk-core, that's all that matters
> right now.
> 
> So, we just need to do -
> 
> 1. use the Nepomuk2 namespace, and nepomuk2 include directory
> 2. Remove kde-runtime/nepomuk
> 
> Regarding 1, I like Ivan's suggestion about BEGIN_NEPOMUK_NAMESPACE. If
> you want I can take care of it.

Ah, damn, I forgot about that. I am in the process of replacing
everything with "Nepomuk2". I want to put it all into easily revertable
commits.
The problem with Ivan's idea is that it does not cover the includes -
although I suppose we could handle that with a cmake definition...

> 
>     > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg at kde.org
>     <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
>     > <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     I now prepared the required repositories:
>     >
>     >     scratch/trueg/nepomuk-kde-kio
>     >      contains the 3 Nepomuk kio slaves
>     >
>     >     scratch/trueg/nepomuk-kde-config
>     >      contains the KCM and the controller systray app
>     >
>     >     The question is: where should we move them? Something like
>     "KDE/Base"?
>     >     I suppose questions like these have already been discussed
>     with respect
>     >     to KDE5?
>     >
>     >     Cheers,
>     >     Sebastian
>     >
>     >     On 05/07/2012 03:58 PM, Sebastian Trüg wrote:
>     >     > On 05/07/2012 03:47 PM, ivan.cukic at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ivan.cukic at gmail.com>
>     >     <mailto:ivan.cukic at gmail.com <mailto:ivan.cukic at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >     >> Maybe there could be something like qt has -
>     >     BEGIN_NEPOMUK_NAMESPACE... So that if the same needs to be done in
>     >     the future, we could just change the macro value.
>     >     >
>     >     > That would be much more work since each cpp file has the
>     namespaces in
>     >     > the method definitions.
>     >     >
>     >     >> I don't know, thinking that Nepomuk2 namespace is looking
>     rather
>     >     ugly :)
>     >     >
>     >     > it is indeed.
>     >     >
>     >     >> The dirtiest solution library-wise would be to have
>     everything in
>     >     NepomukCore::Nepomuk::Something so that the only change in the
>     >     current code of nepomuk users would be a using namespace
>     NepomukCore;
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Sorry for being a bit vague, I'm writing from my phone.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Cheerio,
>     >     >> IvanOn 7.5.12. 14.49 Vishesh Handa wrote:
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Sebastian Trüg
>     <trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
>     >     <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>> wrote:
>     >     >>
>     >     >> On 05/07/2012 02:35 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Sebastian Trüg
>     <trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
>     >     <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>
>     >     >>
>     >     >>> <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>
>     <mailto:trueg at kde.org <mailto:trueg at kde.org>>>> wrote:
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>>     On 05/07/2012 12:09 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>>     > So, we're down to 3 options -
>     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>>     > *1.* nepomuk-core become a dependency of kdelibs.
>     Kdelibs
>     >     is not
>     >     >>>     touched.
>     >     >>>     > *Problem:* Overlapping headers and possible mysterious
>     >     crashes if both
>     >     >>>     > libraries are loaded.
>     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>>     > *2.* nepomuk-core installs headers under nepomuk2. It's
>     >     released
>     >     >>>     > independently.
>     >     >>>     > *Problem:* Mysterious crashes if both libraries are
>     loaded.
>     >     >>>     >
>     >     >>>     > *3.* nepomuk-core installs headers under nepomuk2
>     and the
>     >     namespace is
>     >     >>>     > changed to nepomuk2.
>     >     >>>     > *Problem:* A lot more work :(
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>>     Well, I suppose we could make this work with some sed
>     magic. :P
>     >     >>>     I would vote for option 3 which could then be reverted (or
>     >     not) for
>     >     >>>     kde5.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> I would prefer option 2.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> The mysterious crashes would only happen if an
>     application's plugin
>     >     >>> links to the incorrect libraries.
>     >     >>>
>     >     >>> Is that a possibility for us?
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >> I already experienced that. Took me a while to find the reason.
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Alright.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> I would like the Nepomuk2 namespace and include directories be
>     >     removed for the frameworks, but I guess it is not a big deal
>     if that
>     >     doesn't happen.
>     >     >>
>     >     >> ----
>     >     >>
>     >     >> Okay, everyone. This is the point where you chime in and say -
>     >     "We're okay with this" or you raise your objections. We would like
>     >     to get this mess sorted in time for the 4.9 release.
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
>     >     >>
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>     >
>     > --
>     > Vishesh Handa
>     >
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> Vishesh Handa
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