[Nepomuk] Re: Gsoc Proposal draft

[Roman Evstifeev]

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg at kde.org> wrote:
> Hi Swair,
>
> good to hear that you are interested. A few comments on your proposal:
>
> In general: When it comes to project management the idea is not to use
> tags (as in string keywords) but to use actual pimo:Project resources.
> This means that each project is a fully qualified RDF resource which has
> a label, a description, and any other properties one might want to
> attach to it (like start date). Then other resources like files or
> webpages are related to that project.
> (To be precise this is not that different from tags in nepomuk since
> they are also RDF resources - simply with a different type, namely nao:Tag).
> More below:
>
> On 03/09/2011 03:23 PM, swair shah wrote:
>> *Proposal Title:* Project Integration
>>
>> *Motivation for the proposal:* Before Project Integration Gsoc project,
>> I had started doing some research on another Nepo muk project : Building
>> a "real" query parser, and started reading webpages for writing context
>> free grammar to parse queries. Even before starting anything related to
>> coding I realized the need of a "Project Integration" which would keep
>> all the previously visited webpages, local files associated with the
>> same project, even the mail conversations I would have regarding the
>> project and at the same time the contacts related to the project.
>>
>> I believe that Nepomuk is a very powerful project and its not being used
>> by KDE users to its full potential, probably because the lack 'front
>> end' applications like the Project Integration tool which would really
>> show Nepomuk in action.
>>
>> Project Integration can be really powerful for development projects by
>> semantically linking code repositories, reference docs, tutorials,
>> videos, contacts etc. with a particular project. Apart from development
>> projects, such a framework can also be used for creating and searching a
>> semantic database for non development projects.
>>
>> *Implementation Details:  *
>> About webpages:
>> There should be a way to tag webpages to the project db. Can use
>> annotation in Konqureror. For other browsers a currently running webpage
>> can be tagged with the project. (krunner can be used like say,
>> projectname:Tag:webpage)
>
> Webpages can already be tagged from Konqueror via a context menu. The
> code can be found in the nepomukannotation project on projects.kde.org.
> However, as said above one cannot relate a webpage to a project. I
> envision this to be very simple, even combined with something like a
> current project. Again we already have a service maintaining a general
> current resource. This could be combined.
>
>> Files:
>> Any files can be tagged with the project name. There can be support for
>> automatic tagging so that user don't have to go and tag everything
>> manually (may be files edited in one 'session' can be included in the
>> same project) but i believe manual tagging is better as user would have
>> full control over the files and pages that are included in the project
>> metadata.
>>
>> Other contributors:
>> If there are other people working on the same project, their metadata
>> will be connected with my metadata. Email converstations with the
>> coloborators which have subject/content which contains name of the
>> project will be added in the rdf store for the project.
>
> There is only one big RDF store - Nepomuk. Everything is stored in there.
>
>> *Tentative Timeline:
>>
>> *First half of may: Go through nepomuk code. Learn how to use virtuoso.
>> Start working on some basic RDF triple store creation to get experience.
>
> I don't really get this. Nepomuk has an RDF store and there is no need
> to create a new one.
>
>> Mid may- Mid june: Implement the support for local file tagging and
>> start working on webpage tagging for a particular projects.
>
> "local file tagging" sounds like what can already be done today.
>
>> Mid June - Mid July: Implement support for metadata sharing with
>> different contributors woking on the same project.
>
> This is very ambitious and needs a lot more detail.
>
>> Mid-July - August Begining: Create a GUI widget which can be used to
>> search project content based on either project name or a file name,
>> contributor name who is associated with the project. It would return the
>> list of all the file, webpages, users.
>
> All in all your proposal is way too short. It is not clear what you
> intend to do, especially for people that have no idea what is meant by
> "project integration" in Nepomuk.
>
> Cheers,
> Sebastian
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I am very interested in such project. The idea to create a
comprehensive GUI for project documentation\web-links and other
project data took away some my sleep hours already. I can't promise
much input, but at least i can share ideas and participate in
brainstorming\research.