HOWTO qt app without ministro

Ray Donnelly mingw.android at gmail.com
Tue Nov 20 09:03:21 UTC 2012


It's not the act of building LGPL libraries that makes you responsible
for complying with the LGPL, it's the act of distributing them that
does this. Using Ministro leaves this responsibility with the
Necessitas project.

I'd also be wary about paying too much attention to the noisy
complaining minority on app stores, for they are just that. Ignoring
them is IMHO, the sanest option.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Mixx Support <support at mixxmachine.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Owning up! It was me who's kicked up some dust with proposing the
> non-ministro deployment option on the following thread:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-qt/as1zbWzPahw
>
> I've created a new thread to avoid crosstalk with the HOWTO:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-qt/c4tlwuqW1_0
>
>
> At this stage, I'd just like to clarify things a bit.
>
> I AM proposing a deployment option that would bundle Qt so libs in the APK
> instead of on-device download via ministro. The so libs I am talking about
> are the original ones, delivered in the Necessitas release.
>
> I AM NOT proposing static linking (would require commercial license).
>
> I AM NOT proposing that everybody should be building their own DLLs (would
> have to comply with LGPL).
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> Thanks,
> Mixxer
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 19/11/2012 12:00, necessitas-devel-request at kde.org wrote:
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>>     1. Re: HOWTO qt app without ministro (Willy Gardiol)
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>> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:46:54 +0200
>> From: Willy Gardiol <willy at gardiol.org>
>> To: <android-qt at googlegroups.com>
>> Cc: Necessitas Devel <necessitas-devel at kde.org>
>> Subject: Re: HOWTO qt app without ministro
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>> The necessity to be linked to Google Play is stopping me too as i
>> deploy a lot on Amazon Market.
>>
>> I am sking to BogDan, would it be possible to migrate Ministro inside
>> the Qt app so that the libraries can be downloaded automatically anyway?
>> I mean, no need to go to the google play and install anything, make
>> ministro part of each Qt app, so the user will not be confused and will
>> just see the downloa bar automatically?
>>
>> This would solve all the user interaction issues i guess.
>>
>> The issue woul probably be where to store the downloaed libs so that
>> they are available to all Qt apps...
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 18.11.2012 22:54 Marcio Andrey Oliveira ha scritto:
>>>
>>> I second Mixxer and Ray Chan.
>>>
>>> Static link should be available for those developers that want to use
>>> it instead of shared library.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> 2012/11/18 Ray Chan <ray.chen.i.am.raychen at gmail.com [1]>
>>>
>>>> I agreed with Mixxer.?
>>>>
>>>> First I do respect Necessitas a lot.
>>>> And when I try to deploy my app in the market, I found that a lot of
>>>> devices dont support Google Play. This means there is no way for
>>>>
>>>> user to get qt libraries from Ministro.
>>>> The only way for me is to deliver a single apk which has all
>>>> necessary qt-libraries included.
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>> 2012?11?11????UTC+8??1?24?26??mixxer???
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, thanks for replying. Dont mistake my argument for disrespect,
>>>>> I really do appreciate the hard work that everybody involved is
>>>>> putting into this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would just like to clarify that I am not proposing that
>>>>> everybody should mod and build their own DLLs. Most of your
>>>>> arguments (LGPL, thing about updating and development etc) would
>>>>> be valid on that basis but do not really apply to my suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am only proposing an additional deployment option for necessitas
>>>>> DLLs - to be included in the APK as they are. The reasons are
>>>>> clear enough from my previous message and as far as I can see they
>>>>> remain valid. User experience being top of the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case, I take your point about doing it myself. Ill see what
>>>>> I can do, but must admit this is not my area of expertise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>
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