Necessitas-devel Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4

Tue Apr 3 01:54:39 UTC 2012

Ditto!
I have 8 apps published, 2 are Qt widget based and the remainder are qml
apps utilizing Chris's symbian qml components port.
Cheers,
Jon

On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 02:39 +0100, Ivan Litovski wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> May I just suggest that a clear migration path and schedule be provided 
> for apps that have been published?
> 
> Disclosure: my app has been published and is doing reasonably well. It 
> would be great to know how and when to deploy fixes so end users don't 
> hammer me with bad reviews and support emails.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ivan
> 
> 
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> >     1. Re: Assets: Does it need to be transparent? (Chris Browet)
> >     2. Re: Ministro missing (BogDan)
> >     3. Re: Assets: Does it need to be transparent? (BogDan)
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:40:04 +0200
> > From: Chris Browet<cbro at semperpax.com>
> > To: necessitas-devel at kde.org
> > Subject: Re: Assets: Does it need to be transparent?
> > Message-ID:
> > 	<CAD5buGKJhOzCkgVia28wkdUepZJTX3UPw=Z4-in0AiEdKbWrYw at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > My 2 cents, but I obviously agree that, Necessitas still being alpha, back
> > compatibility shouldn't be considered, especially if it means that it would
> > have to drag this environment variable forever.
> > People publishing apps versus an alpha build knew this could happen and
> > assumed the risk.
> >
> > Note that, as Tyler pointed out, once this is implemented, my patch
> > regarding the slash at the end of dirs can be reinstated as it is without
> > performance hit.
> >
> > Regards
> > - Chris -
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:15, Willy Gardiol<willy at gardiol.org>  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I agree!
> >> it's still alpha, and publish was not recomended, so we can still break it!
> >>
> >>
> >> Il 02.04.2012 11:46 Marco Bernasocchi ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> And wasnt it explicitly unsuggested to publish on the market exactly
> >>> for those reasons?
> >>>   I guess that better code should be a priority and people can adapt
> >>> their alpha code.
> >>>   Ciao
> >>>
> >>> Marco Bernasocchi (mobile)
> >>>   http:// [3]opengis.ch [4]
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 2, 2012 11:18 AM, "Harri Pasanen"<harri at mpaja.com [5]>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   On 04/02/2012 10:42 AM, BogDan wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>   The problem is that there are some apps on market which will be
> >>>>> break by this change, so we must do the best to ensure backward
> >>>>> compatibility.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Do we know how many apps there are in the market made with
> >>>> Necessitas?
> >>>> Is there a way to know?   Like are there analytics at Ministro
> >>>> side?
> >>>>
> >>>> As Necessitas is still officially alpha, it might still be ok to
> >>>> break compatibility.
> >>>>
> >>>> /Harri
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> [1] mailto:Necessitas-devel at kde.**org<Necessitas-devel at kde.org>
> >>> [2] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/**listinfo/necessitas-devel<https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/necessitas-devel>
> >>> [3] http://opengis.ch
> >>> [4] http://opengis.ch
> >>> [5] mailto:harri at mpaja.com
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Willy Gardiol
> >> willy at gardiol.org
> >> www.gardiol.org
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 04:24:54 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: BogDan<bog_dan_ro at yahoo.com>
> > To: Harri Pasanen<harri at mpaja.com>, "necessitas-devel at kde.org"
> > 	<necessitas-devel at kde.org>
> > Subject: Re: Ministro missing
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > Hi Harri,
> >
> > ? I just download and try you app and everything seems to be ok !
> >
> > BTW Nice app I rate it with 5 stars ;-) !
> >
> > Please let us know if there are more reports like this.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Cheers,
> > BogDan.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Harri Pasanen<harri at mpaja.com>
> >> To: "necessitas-devel at kde.org"<necessitas-devel at kde.org>
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 12:14 PM
> >> Subject: Ministro missing
> >>
> >> FYI, I got the below report from a user:
> >>
> >> "I tried using your Qt app on my Motorola Atrix. It does pop up me to
> >> download ministro but it is not taking me to the right place in Google android
> >> store. Just thought of informing you. I searched and installed Ministro 2 myself
> >> to make it work."
> >>
> >> The app in question is
> >>
> >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mpaja.roboe
> >>
> >> I have no idea why this would happen, this is the first time I've been
> >> reported this.
> >> There are ~30 active device installs, ~60 total user installs.
> >>
> >> Harri
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 04:49:00 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: BogDan<bog_dan_ro at yahoo.com>
> > To: "necessitas-devel at kde.org"<necessitas-devel at kde.org>
> > Subject: Re: Assets: Does it need to be transparent?
> > Message-ID:
> > 	<1333367340.63882.YahooMailNeo at web121401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > ?? AFAIK there are just a few apps, most of them are announced on android-qt mailing list, just search for Ministro or Necessitas on market.
> >
> > ? I also know that I warn the people many times about the alpha state of Necessitas and I should don't care too much about them but ... I care !
> >
> >
> > ? If we can support all this apps with a little effort (there are just a few lines of code to make it backward compatible) , IMHO we should do it ! Because all these apps will stop working immediately after Ministro will update Qt libs, and even the developers will update the code, these apps will not work using alpha3 libs, this means frustrated users, frustrated developers and bad reviews ...
> >
> >
> > All of you might think I'm crazy, maybe I am ...? :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > BogDan.
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Chris Browet<cbro at semperpax.com>
> >> To: necessitas-devel at kde.org
> >> Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 1:40 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Assets: Does it need to be transparent?
> >>
> >>
> >> My 2 cents, but I obviously agree that, Necessitas still being alpha, back compatibility shouldn't be considered, especially if it means that it would have to drag this environment variable forever.
> >> People publishing apps versus an alpha build knew this could happen and assumed the risk.
> >>
> >> Note that, as Tyler pointed out, once this is implemented, my patch regarding the slash at the end of dirs can be reinstated as it is without performance hit.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> - Chris -
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:15, Willy Gardiol<willy at gardiol.org>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I agree!
> >>> it's still alpha, and publish was not recomended, so we can still break it!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Il 02.04.2012 11:46 Marco Bernasocchi ha scritto:
> >>>
> >>> And wasnt it explicitly unsuggested to publish on the market exactly
> >>>> for those reasons?
> >>>> ?I guess that better code should be a priority and people can adapt
> >>>> their alpha code.
> >>>> ?Ciao
> >>>>
> >>>> Marco Bernasocchi (mobile)
> >>>>
> > ?http:// [3]opengis.ch [4]
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 2, 2012 11:18 AM, "Harri Pasanen"<harri at mpaja.com [5]>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 04/02/2012 10:42 AM, BogDan wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem is that there are some apps on market which will be
> >>>>>> break by this change, so we must do the best to ensure backward
> >>>>>> compatibility.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Do we know how many apps there are in the market made with
> >>>>> Necessitas?
> >>>>> Is there a way to know? ? Like are there analytics at Ministro
> >>>>> side?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As Necessitas is still officially alpha, it might still be ok to
> >>>>> break compatibility.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /Harri
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Necessitas-devel mailing list
> >>>>> Necessitas-devel at kde.org [1]
> >>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/necessitas-devel [2]
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Links:
> >>>> ------
> >>>> [1] mailto:Necessitas-devel at kde.org
> >>>> [2] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/necessitas-devel
> >>>> [3] http://opengis.ch
> >>>> [4] http://opengis.ch
> >>>> [5] mailto:harri at mpaja.com
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>> Willy Gardiol
> >>> willy at gardiol.org
> >>> www.gardiol.org
> >>> www.trackaway.org ->  Track YOUR way the way you want!
> >>>
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