KStars v3.5.0 Release Date?
Giles Coochey
giles at coochey.net
Wed Oct 14 12:45:29 BST 2020
Hi All,
I'd echo a lot of Wolfgang's fears - if the UI is going to change, and
it will be more difficult to get 3.5.0 to function as 3.4.3, or the beta
has then I would like to see that the documentation is updated (at least
for major UI changes) before it is released as stable.
I understand 3.5.0 is more than a minor release, I look forward to using
StellarSolver, especially as I have Windows on my laptop, which I'd use
at a remote site (although I can remotely astrometry.net onto my Pi,
which works fine, but is a bit slower).
Thanks
Giles
On 14/10/2020 12:35, Jasem Mutlaq wrote:
> Hello Wolfgang,
>
> Your concern is greatly appreciated! I'm afraid I agree with you,
> we're not ready for Oct. 15th as the release date, I think it's safer
> to push it to Oct 22nd to get more user feedback on this.
>
> Regarding StellarSolver, everything is there. So if you go to options
> you can select "Local Astrometry" (which is astrometry.net
> <http://astrometry.net>). You can still select ASTAP and online.
> Robert didn't miss anything and he did an outstanding job with
> StellarSolver that is the primary reason I decided to skip 3.4.4 and
> go to the 3.5.0 release. This is finally going to allow folks on
> Windows to finally solve images without installing third party software.
>
> With StellarSolver, KStars can fully perform all the astrophotography
> tasks without relying on _any_ external programs and this is the first
> in Ekos history! This is why I am very excited for StellarSolver.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Jasem Mutlaq
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:03 AM Wolfgang Reissenberger
> <wolfgang at openfuture.de <mailto:wolfgang at openfuture.de>> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> I am a little bit concerned that the introduction of StellarSolver
> is not smooth enough. Please don’t get me wrong, I fully
> appreciate all the work behind and the intention is perfectly fine.
>
> But a user not familiar with all the discussion behind might be
> confused with the new UI. When I opened the new Align tab I was
> surprised that my only choice is StellarSolver and it looked like
> astrometry.net <http://astrometry.net> is no longer supported -
> and I was aware that there was work ongoing behind introducing a
> new framework.
>
> I then discovered that I could go back to my old astrometry.net
> <http://astrometry.net> solution - but still I am not sure which
> are the right options so that it simply works as before.
>
> We should be aware that we have a substantial amount of users that
> use nightly builds or even build from source on their own. And
> some of them will discover the new setup late in the evening
> shortly before the photography session starts.
>
> I personally would really appreciate if the old setup with
> astrometry.net <http://astrometry.net> and ASTAP remains as an
> option directly on the Align tab and we leave us more time for the
> transition.
>
> Does that make sense to you?
>
> Cheers
> Wolfgang
>
>> Am 05.10.2020 um 12:55 schrieb Jasem Mutlaq
>> <mutlaqja at ikarustech.com <mailto:mutlaqja at ikarustech.com>>:
>>
>> I concur! The documentation needs to be updated. I don't think
>> there is time _before_ 3.5.0 is released fully, but hopefully
>> close to the release date.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Jasem Mutlaq
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 11:03 AM Hy Murveit <murveit at gmail.com
>> <mailto:murveit at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Another thing re 3.5.0.
>>
>> I propose we get the kstars manual in better shape--review
>> the major sections and make sure they're up to date.
>>
>> https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/extragear-edu/kstars/index.html
>>
>> There seems to be some issue now where the manual has not
>> been updated to reflect the latest additions (e.g. I put in a
>> section about Analyze on August 17, but it is still not
>> showing up). Once that issue is resolved (I have no info
>> about that), then I can update the Ekos Guider and Analyze
>> sections. Perhaps others can pick a section or two?
>>
>> Hy
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:05 AM Wolfgang Reissenberger
>> <sterne-jaeger at openfuture.de
>> <mailto:sterne-jaeger at openfuture.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Same for me, sounds good.
>>
>> My question is how we should handle the two bug fixes
>> contained in
>> https://invent.kde.org/education/kstars/-/merge_requests/60 At
>> least one of the bugs is quite severe: currently, EKOS
>> cannot handle two meridian flips in the same session.
>>
>> On the other side, the entire meridian flip functionality
>> is quite complex and each fix bears the risk of
>> regressions. That’s why I concentrated on developing
>> automated test cases, which are meanwhile included in MR
>> 60. They cover the most common situations where a
>> meridian flip occurred.
>>
>> From my perspective, it would make sense to include MR 60
>> into v3.5.0 - as long as the MR review is successful.
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>>
>>> Am 01.10.2020 um 06:20 schrieb Hy Murveit
>>> <murveit at gmail.com <mailto:murveit at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>> Sounds good--perhaps a couple of weeks testing, assuming
>>> all goes well.
>>>
>>> For me, it would be good to know ahead of time any
>>> StellarSolver algorithmic (sextractor parameter) changes to
>>> focus and guider, or if the changes should be identical
>>> from a numbers point of view--just quicker/better.
>>>
>>> Hy
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:07 PM Jasem Mutlaq
>>> <mutlaqja at ikarustech.com
>>> <mailto:mutlaqja at ikarustech.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Today I discussed StellarSolver integration progress
>>> with Robert and it's coming along nicely. I think
>>> within a week we'd have a version that can be tested
>>> by users. Then perhaps we give another 7-10 after
>>> that for a full release of v3.5.0?
>>>
>>> The other major milestone is DSO: integration
>>> https://invent.kde.org/education/kstars/-/merge_requests/93
>>>
>>> Though I think this would probably slip to v3.5.1
>>> since it's still in progress, but very promising
>>> indeed and Valentine would make KStars finally load
>>> large DSOs catalogs without significant performance
>>> impacts!
>>>
>>> Are there any pending milestones for this release?
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Jasem Mutlaq
>>>
>>
>
--
Giles Coochey
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