[Kstars-devel] Print Wizard
Bruce
bruce.harding at gmail.com
Sat Mar 29 00:06:24 UTC 2014
I've been thinking about the Print Wizard and it possible use in the
Observation Plan/Session Planner.
My reasoning. Presently the Observers Planner is designed for the astronomer
who is connected to a computer/goto telescope.
I think we can expand this to the visual observer by creating a print out for
each object. So if the astronomer picks 15 objects to observe in a session.
Say that he/she is observing visually. Now we give them the ability to print
out page/s for each object to be observed, much like we do with the print
wizard. Then the next day the observer can come home and record his/her
results in Kstars.
I noticed that in the Planning Session feature has a place to put notes. How
does one review old observations? It seems to me that the whole point to
keeps notes is that you can go back to them for review and research. Maybe
there should be a search feature.
Could we make the Notes section more like the Print Wizard printout? I see a
specific place for sky conditions eye pieces used, automatic calculation of
magnification based on telescope and each eye piece used. This information can
be taken for the Equipment section. Caveat: If a observer has more than one
telescope we might need a menu (drop down) to choose telescope and eye pieces.
Maybe be the observations could be tied to a calendar?
How will a observer enter his/her data. Well I see two methods the first is
base on Kstars present setup. The observer would have to search out each
object in his/her list via the sky view, centre it and then right click and
choose Details, then log. What I like to see added would be a method to do
the same thing, but via the Observation Plan, Session Plan.
Question: What is the point of a Observation Plan, Session Plan, and note
taking? You don't just take notes to forget about them, they are there for
future review and research. Lets take Kstars to the next level lets beef up
the note taking capability.
So what I'm thing is the integration of the visual and goto computer
observers observing and planning tools.
Again, thanks for you time and comments.
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> 1. Re: Print Wizard (Rafal Kulaga)
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> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 00:40:07 +0100
> From: Rafal Kulaga <rl.kulaga at gmail.com>
> To: Bruce <bruce.harding at gmail.com>
> Cc: KStars Development Mailing List <kstars-devel at kde.org>
> Subject: Re: [Kstars-devel] Print Wizard
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> Hi Bruce,
>
> Oh, I get it. Yes, we can do this either by adding appropriate message to
> the status bar or by painting a text box over the sky map.
>
> Cheers,
> Rafal
>
> 2014-03-26 23:51 GMT+01:00 Bruce <bruce.harding at gmail.com>:
> > Thanks for the quick response.
> >
> > On the issue of FOV capture as you use the Page Up Or Down key is not
> > clear to
> > me what the FOV is that is being captured. Is there a way to convey this
> > on
> > the screen as you Page Up Or Down?
> >
> > On March 25, 2014 12:29:47 PM Rafal Kulaga wrote:
> > > Hi Bruce,
> > >
> > > Oh, I see where the problem is. I will add the "Field notes" field and
> >
> > move
> >
> > > FOV snapshots together with the heading to the next page.
> > >
> > > Borders can be easily added to FOV snapshots - added to my TODO list
> > > too.
> > >
> > > The integration with WUT feature in a way that you described is easy to
> >
> > do
> >
> > > - everything that's needed is a list of SkyObjects passed. Will do that
> >
> > too.
> >
> > > As it comes to FOV capture - do you mean that zooming should be done
> >
> > before
> >
> > > the actual capture?
> > >
> > > Many thanks for your useful suggestions! I'll let you know when those
> > > changes are implemented.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > > Rafal
> > >
> > > 2014-03-24 14:24 GMT+01:00 Bruce <bruce.harding at gmail.com>:
> > > > Rafal,
> > > >
> > > > There are several things I would change.
> > > >
> > > > Logging Form should have a section for "Field Notes" it should take up
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > rest of the page.
> > > >
> > > > Note that this heading "Field Of View Snapshots" is not with the
> > > > snapshots.
> > > >
> > > > "Field of View Snapshots" should have surround borders to give
> >
> > definition
> >
> > > > to
> > > > the capture and help define what is to be seen through one's
> > > > telescope.
> > > >
> > > > The "Details About Object" should have it's own page.
> > > >
> > > > When in the process of choosing the image to capture, to me it seems
> > > > unclear
> > > > what FOV are being captured. Is there a way of showing this before
> > > > hitting
> > > > the "K" to capture the image?
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to connect the "What's Up Tonight" feature with the
> >
> > "Print
> >
> > > > Wizard" feature? How about adding a link under the "Slew Map To
> > > > Object"
> > > > that
> > > > says "Send to Print Wizard"?
> > > >
> > > > Personally I think this feature should be integrated into the
> >
> > "Observation
> >
> > > > Planner" under "Field Notes" or something similar.
> > > >
> > > > I look forward to feed back on the above.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ==
> > > > bruce
> > > >
> > > > On March 24, 2014 12:23:02 PM Rafal Kulaga wrote:
> > > > > Hi Bruce!
> > > > >
> > > > > Could you possibly send me a screenshot or a PDF of the affected
> > > >
> > > > document?
> > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Rafal
> > > > >
> > > > > 2014-03-24 5:14 GMT+01:00 Bruce <lists at faintfuzzies.ca>:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was using the feature Print Wizard when I noticed and issue.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > headings
> > > > > > do not break with the feature they are describing. Give it a try
> >
> > and
> >
> > > > let
> > > >
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > know if you have a different result.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ==
> > > > > > bruce
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