[kplato] Fwd: Re: [kproject] Planning and Analysis 101

Jim Sabatke kplato@kde.org
Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:20:42 -0500


I completely agree with you.  BTW, yes normalization is used with 
relational models; you don't need to be using an RDBMS to use relational 
models.  Abstracting the dbase interface is a very good idea.

Jim

Anders Johansson wrote:

>No, I agree we need a data model. I just think it's better to define it in 
>terms of data types, structures and classes. Not data bases.
>
>My thought is that there are people out there who may be using this system in 
>the future, who aren't using RDBMS, but ODMBS, or perhaps one of the 
>classical systems even (VSAM, anyone? :) If we define an API with data types, 
>we can add a back end later for external databases, embedded databases or 
>text files if that's your fancy. Defining a relational model (isn't 
>normalization only used in relational models?) can be done in the API, 
>without tying it to a specific implementation like xBase.
>
>Anders
>
>On Monday 18 June 2001 23:52, Jim Sabatke wrote:
>
>>1.    Thanks for the definition!
>>
>>2.    I'm not sure that we can seperate the data model from the
>>functionality discussion.  The data model needs to fit the functionality
>>we decide on.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>Anders Johansson wrote:
>>
>>>DTD is an XML term: Document Type Definition. It describes the contents of
>>>an XML document to the interpreter
>>>
>>>Also, may I suggest that we confine ourselves to defining the database
>>>API, and leave the details until later.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Anders
>>>
>>>On Monday 18 June 2001 23:30, Jim Sabatke wrote:
>>>
>>>>Regarding the CVS discussion.  I have never used CVS and I'll bet a lot
>>>>of the other manager types haven't either.  That said, the text left me
>>>>confused.  However, I have a general knowledge about what CVS does, and
>>>>I definately think we should use it.
>>>>
>>>>Regarding the relational database model,  I think most of the discussion
>>>>has been to not use an RDBMS, but rather something like XBase.  Of
>>>>course the XBase tables could/should be normalized as much as possible
>>>>and not hurt performance.  Does anyone have any suggestions/preferences
>>>>for documenting the database?
>>>>
>>>>Also, I'm ignorant as to what a "DTD" is.  We should probably define
>>>>acronymns at least once.  I may have been guilty of causing this kind of
>>>>confusion too.  When in doubt, ask.
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>
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