T10812: KDE Applications

Albert Astals Cid noreply at phabricator.kde.org
Sat Apr 20 22:55:08 BST 2019

aacid added a comment.

  In T10812#182215 <https://phabricator.kde.org/T10812#182215>, @ngraham wrote:
  > In T10812#182213 <https://phabricator.kde.org/T10812#182213>, @aacid wrote:
  > > No, we just need to get users away from bad distros.
  > I find this really insulting. :/
  That is your personal problem, i didn't insult you at all.
  > I think discrete release distros can be great.
  That's fine, i don't totally agree, but i don't feel insulted by our disagreement.
  > It's also unrealistic. The "bad distros" are the ones actually used by huge numbers of people. In my last job, almost all the engineers used Linux on their desktop. Did they use Arch? No. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed? No. They all used CentOS or Ubuntu LTS versions, because those are the distros that their enterprise customers are using. We can't increase our market penetration by ignoring these distros.
  Those distros are 450 years old, having an LTS version of KDE Applications is not going to help either. you'd need *a lot* of LTS versions, Ubuntu 16.04 still supported until next year has KDE Applications 15.12.
  RHEL 7 (that i guess that will be supported for a while still) has 4.10.5
  So i don't see how we can catter to those distributions with *one* LTS version, flatpak is the right answer for them in my opinion.
  > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the major reasons why we do releases in the first place is for the benefit of distros. If they wanted to, they could just package snapshots of our sources, right? We're already providing a nice-to-have service by even doing releases.
  I am not old enough to answer why we started doing releases, but if you ask my opinion, no we don't do releases for distros, we do releases for us, having a "this is x.y.z" point makes it easier when talk to users when they report bugs, etc.


To: ngraham, aacid
Cc: xyquadrat, jtamate, vkrause, lbeltrame, ltoscano, cfeck, aacid, #yakuake, #okular, #dolphin, #kate, #spectacle, #konsole, #gwenview, #kde_pim, #kde_games, #kde_applications, ngraham
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