[Konsole-devel] [konsole] [Bug 191751] middle click to close tab in Konsole

Jekyll Wu adaptee at gmail.com
Tue Mar 26 15:30:24 UTC 2013


--- Comment #22 from Jekyll Wu <adaptee at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #16)
> Better chance to close the window and lose all tabs.
> P.S.: Allways possible make it an option (disabled by default), because
> there will always be a certain number of users who do not like a particular
> function.

And that is a good reason why by default konsole doesn't show that "close tab"
button on the tabbar.  And may I remind you that when you try to close a window
with multiple tabs, konsole will ask you for confirmation, and that
confirmation, unlike the one for closing one tab with foreground process
running, is always trustable.

(In reply to comment #17)
> I guess the reason I am surprised is because KDE has always been proud of
> the fact that they offer options so that *each* user can use it the way
> he/she likes.

Sorry, but that is just Utophia (never the truth) and you are attacking the
strawman. Do you know what it means to allow, say 100 users, to use konsole in
the exact way he/she wants? That would means hundreds, if not thousands, of
options. And those are only 100 users, not millions of uses in the real world.
Konsole/KDE was never, and never will be, flexible enough to make *each* user
use it the way he/she likes.

Ever since I start contributing to konsole, there are many options/features I
have wanted to add but aborted. Why, because I need to also consider the
increased complexity, maintenance burden and bugs.  Had I added all those
options/features just to make myself happy, I'm afraid konsole now is in a
broken and unmaintainable state. 

Options are good, but you don't add options to make everybody happy. That is
destined to lead to failure.
> not just remove a feature that a significant amount of people actually use.

If there are really many users who use and miss this feature, then please tell
me why, after 4 years, this report only has three users (excluding Robert) in
the CC list and only 40 votes from those users? And please do not tell me
"because this report was closed long time ago so users can't see it".  Look bug
 234756,  which requests similar feature and  has been open for 3 years: 3
users in the CC list and 0 votes.   It is really hard for me to believe there
are many users missing this or that feature.

> At this point it is not a matter of getting the feature. For me, it is to
> make sure the Konsole team realizes that they are making decisions that are
> inconsistent with KDE (IMHO).

Consistency is good, but only when consistency makes sense and the underlying
difference is not ignored and underestimated. I have explained that konsole is
very different from file manager, web browser, document viewer, etc by nature
in this field, so keeping consistent with them, just because we are all  KDE
applications using tabbar,  is not really a convincing argument.  

And when it comes to consistency, the consistency with similar applications
(terminal emulators) is much more important and convincing than consistency
with browsers.  And please tell me which multi-tab terminal emulator has this
"middle click closing" feature and is praised for it.

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