[Konsole-devel] [Bug 175140] konsole -profile functionality from kde 3.5.x

[Jekyll Wu]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=175140





--- Comment #23 from Jekyll Wu <adaptee gmail com>  2012-02-18 17:41:19 ---
[ TL;DR (Off Topic) Konsole does not have many developers, which has NOTHING to
do with those cool things in KDE4 ]

Well, I am involved only with the development of Konsole so I wouldn't make
comment for the big picture of "KDE4". 

As for Konsole, it does not have many developers. But that has been the case
for a few years(including the KDE3 era). So it is not that Konsole developers
change focus to other cool or fancy things. It is just that Konsole has never
had many developers. 

The problem with the KDE4 konsole is that  KDE3 konsole ==> KDE4 konsole is
more like rewriting than normal upgrading or porting. In this process, some
features were lost and some bugs were introduced. Then Robert, the most
productive Konsole developer, discontinued his contribution to Konsole and KDE.
So some issues were not fixed or reimplemented as planned or promised . I would
say KDE4 Konsole was and is still an half-finished product.

In the most time between 2009 and 2012, there is only one man who worked lonely
to take care of Konsole on a regular basis. That is Kurt. That "one man's show"
is a bit sad and is not enough to push KDE4 Konsole moving forward quickly.
Then I joined in last year. Now we have two regular developers. Not so many ,
but the number has been doubled. And the situation has been improving since
then.

In June 2011, there were about 600 reports(including wishes) for Konsole. It is
not hard to imagine the frustration and difficulty for one man(Kurt) to deal
with or even read those 600 reports. Now we have about 200 reports. Those
closed 400 reports include quite a few bug fixes and features, although many of
them are just duplicate or invalid.

So please, do not use words like "if they care for their product to be relevant
with users..." too easily when you are annoyed by your most hated issue of some
application. That is often the wrong impression or conclusion. It is better to
make that judgement only when you know the big picture of one application. For
Konsole, if you have subscribed to its mailing list at konsole-devel at kde.org,
followed its commits by using commitfilter.kde.org, watched related review
requests on reviewboard.kde.org/groups/konsole, I bet you wouldn't say that.

The reason I see some comments as unhelpful is they not only contains no
information for solving the problem(bugzilla is for tracking and solving
problems, right?), but also frustrate and demotivate existing and potential
developers. Although I'm always already frustrated even before reading any bug
report, this one makes me frustrated to the point that I only want to imagine
some solution in the head without writing any code for it although I do have
the time .

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