[Konsole-devel] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

Christian Kapeller christian.kapeller at gmx.net
Fri Mar 20 11:50:14 UTC 2009


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178320


Christian Kapeller <christian.kapeller at gmx.net> changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Christian Kapeller <christian kapeller gmx net>  2009-03-20 12:50:08 ---
I second Jaroslav's wish. I want to elaborate what I, from my point of view
expect of a terminal application, which let's me to split the whole window into
parts:

The main reason, why i want to split a terminal window into say two parts, is
to see simultaneously what goes on in two different locations. For example I
want to compile some server program on my blazing fast laptop , and then to
setup the program on my humble low power/low performance home server.

I split the terminal window into two parts, one showing me a vi on my laptop
call it the [Devel] session, the other part is showing me a shell on my server,
the [Admin] session. In [Devel] I compile the program, and copy it on the
server. I change to [Admin], bring the program into place, setup config files,
and start the server program. Something goes wrong, and I want to examine the
logs on the server. I split my view again and get a [Log] session. The [Log]
sessin is happily showing me the log file output of the server program, while I
fiddle arround in with the config files in [Admin]. ....

This is a quite common task that I have to achieve every day. From this little
story, one can see, that I want to get two different things done in two
different views, i.e. I want one-view-one-thing semantics. The way I expect
splitting to work is that of a tiling window manager (like in ION). Further it
would be nice if I could drag the shells around to adjust the whole term window
to different needs. 

Another thing, that would be nice to to have, where tabs within views so that i
can have switch between two shells with in one view. Observe that all this is
based on the one-view-one-thing semantics. 

As to the way konsole splitting works now, I understand the intention behind
the current view mechanism. It is geared toward providing quickly and easily
many-views-on-one-thing.  

I have encountered this concept in many places. The first i now of is some 
early WinWord, where you could split the view of one document into two, working
on two places of the doc simultaneously. You mentioned vim, which I use
extensively. But also there I use the split view rather for viewing multiple
files then for multiplely viewing one file. 

Though it is an intriguing concept, personally I never got used to the
many-views-to-one-thing semantics. I see it as a neat feature that would come
handy one day. 

What I explained above fits quite good with the way the 'terminator' terminal
emulator works. But otherwise I feel much more comfortable with konsole, and
it's a pity that especially this aspect that would make my life much easier,
does so much not conform with the way I prefer to work.

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