[Konsole-devel] konsole pgup and pgdown

[one forall]

As far as simple goes remove the Alternative or make another one Thats simple.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:02 AM, one forall<oneforall at gmail.com> wrote:
> also coming over from another system you come to learn
> Just like coming to another country as my dad said learn the language
> and the rules . Some compromise but that's not a compromise there is
> the default . The other interferes with the app. The konsole is to use
> the app like you would from cli right .
> well there is more But I can see I'm going to get the shaft on those
> too with this answer.
>
> As far as the mail the searchig to find the simple blah at blah.com is
> not easy at all from starting at the main page . I got it from the
> second confirmation. After signing up. Anyways I can see konsole isn't
> going to do half of what it used too. Like I said they should learn if
> they want to use something different. We ALL did .
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Robert Knight<robertknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>> sorry it took me so long but I find it extremely hard to understand
>>> and use the mailing list
>>
>> What aspect of using the mailing list did you find difficult?
>> As an alternative to using a mailing list you can:
>>
>> 1)  Email me or one of the other developers directly (our addresses
>> are listed in Help -> About Konsole in Konsole itself) -
>> although to use the mailing list itself you can just email konsole-devel at kde.org
>> 2)  Use the user forum at forum.kde.org
>>
>>> If so then mc has allays used ctrl+pgup and pgdown but now after all
>>> the years of using konsole, konsole is interfering with an app that
>>> its supposed to run just like from cli(terminal,shell)
>>
>> These things are not so simple.  An alternative argument is that all
>> applications which have tabs should behave consistently and
>> in other tabbed applications like Firefox, Konqueror etc,
>> Ctrl+PageUp/PageDown switches tabs and the behavior should be the same
>> in Konsole.  What we have actually done is to pick a compromise in
>> most cases which is to take the standard shortcut for an action and
>> add Shift to avoid conflicting with terminal applications.  For
>> example, Ctrl+C is the standard key sequence to kill a command in a
>> terminal but it is also the standard key sequence to copy text.  So in
>> Konsole we use Ctrl+Shift+C instead.
>>
>>> 5) Frustrating to have to fix something that worked before with ease.
>>
>> Yes, I appreciate that changes can be frustrating.  Yes, I appreciate
>> that it can be annoying for some users when behavior changes.
>> However, I have to deal with:
>>
>> a)  The needs of new users who are confused by the existing behavior
>> b)  The needs of old users who do not like the existing behavior and
>> do want it changed
>> c)  The needs of new users who do like the existing behavior and do
>> not want it changed
>>
>> Regards,
>> Robert.
>>
>> 2009/7/12 one forall <oneforall at gmail.com>:
>>> Hi
>>>  sorry it took me so long but I find it extremely hard to understand
>>> and use the mailing list. I'm sure there are lots of others too that
>>> don't say anything because of the email system too.
>>> But is not the sole purpose of konsole to run applications 1 for each
>>> tab. To run them like cli?
>>> If so then mc has allays used ctrl+pgup and pgdown but now after all
>>> the years of using konsole, konsole is interfering with an app that
>>> its supposed to run just like from cli(terminal,shell) . Yes you can
>>> go change the shortcut but since its an Alternative then that
>>> Alternative should be another not something interfering with it
>>> working out of the box like cli. Dunno why now in kde4 it wants to do
>>> that . I sure hope its fixed thanks.
>>> 1) apps should run with no interference like they would from cli.
>>> 2) An Alternative shouldn't be a short cut an app uses .
>>> 3) 1 app or 100 doesn't matter the purpose is to run AN app just like
>>> it does from cli
>>> 4) Even if you can take time to find out how to change it . It was
>>> Always working in previous kde's , which defeats the porpose of making
>>> it like cli. and from working to not . just that alone is enought to
>>> know its the wrong way to go
>>> 5) Frustrating to have to fix something that worked before with ease.
>>> 6) Just hoping to see it do what it used too and should do.
>>>
>>> Any way hope this gets fixed.
>>> Bring it back to the porpose of using it to work proper with the
>>> app/apps since it used to
>>> later
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