[Konsole-devel] [Bug 152761] No session management in KDE 4 - Sessions / directory / tabs not restored on login

[S. Burmeister]

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152761





--- Comment #58 from S. Burmeister <sven burmeister gmx net>  2008-10-03 12:03:40 ---
> I am often convinced that KDE 4 management team (if something like that
> actually exists) lives in a cave on the Moon without any grip to the reality
> and completely oblivious to anything surrounding them.

The approach to not include new features into maintenance releases is very
common, so there must be a huge cave.

> So allow me to tell it straight to you - this part should be flashing in bold
> capital huge red letters, maybe that way you will GET IT !!!

This is the point where you already lost your audience in the developers camp,
because it shows that what follows is polemicand just trolling.

> As opposed to widgets and other plasma gimmicks, session management in konsole
> KDE 4.1.x is **CRUCIAL** for most of us end-users. Without it the KDE 4.1.x is
> pretty much **useless** to us and we'll throw the whole lot to the bin and use
> KDE 3 instead. Clear enough ?

"most of end-users [...] we will throw [...]". You do not have any evidence
that you know what most end-users think is crucial, emphasising your ignorance
with stars and capital letters really makes you look bad, using pluralis
majestatis, makes you even look arrogant.

> Do you understand what CRUCIAL word mean ? Do you understand what words "MUST
> HAVE IT BACK NOW" mean ?

You really like to show off your bad traits, do you?

> For us this omission represents a major **BUG** which needs to be fixed ASAP.
> Allow me to be blunt here but what it means to you it's irrelevant really
> because it is **our** interpretation and request that should rule, not yours.

Code rules, nothing else. And since you seem to have contributed very little
code to the project, you have as much as that to decide. You would really have
to contribute a lot to make up for your attitude.

> And we really don't care about, or want to hear your excuses for not getting it
> into the next bug fixing release. What we want is action ! Now !
> 
> So you have two options: either continue to be ignorant and offer us your same
> lame excuses and alienate all potential KDE 4 users or wake up for God's sake
> and do the right thing: fix it NOW.
> 
> We grew tired of seeing this sheer stupidity over and over again: new features
> are added and given high priority, features that will be used by very few of us
> - if ever, while **BASIC FUNCTIONALITY** - let me repeat this: BASIC
> FUNCTIONALITY (!!!!) that 99% end users need it **NOW** is missing and the fix
> is promised to land once in a blue moon.
> 
> > [...] it takes discipline to hold back things, [...]
> 
> No, it takes stupidity not discipline !
> 
> DOH !!!!

Let me show you why your post is completely useless: Normal users, e.g. those
coming from windows, do not like to touch anything that looks like a command
line, let alone using session management in their kosnole, so those users that
do, seem to have some deeper knowledge and interest, might even know about
coding a bit. If the latter is the majority and this was crucial for them, it
would be very likely that one of them would have submitted a patch during the
4.0.x time already. Didn't happen.

Trying to claim that 99% of the users need konsole _and_ its session management
is just ridiculous, ~300 votes speak for themselves. There is a need for this
functionality, which nobody ever doubted, but if the majority would need it
crucially, there would be other numbers, check bugzilla for bugs the majority
really hates.

Most people use some distro. Distros include patches, even unreleased ones if
they think they are needed. They even create patches and submit them upstream,
if they think they are  needed. Didn't happen(, yet).

Smart users remember that konsole3 worked for them and just continue to use it,
even if they run KDE4.

Smart users know that calling developers and the KDE team stupid disqualifies
them as people to care about. Even if you were right, your attitude is
unbearable.

If this functionality is available at some point it is due to the effort of
Stefan Becker and not because of people like you that don't code but just
troll. If I would shout at you that 1+1=2 and call you stupid at the same time,
even though I am right, you would just laugh about me, that's what people do
when reading your trolling.


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