working with reports : is there a finer grain possible for accounts selection ?

[hugo borrell]

2016-06-16 14:28 GMT+02:00 Thomas Baumgart <thb at net-bembel.de>:

> Hi,
>
> On Thursday 16 June 2016 10:22:20 hugo borrell wrote:
>
> > 2016-06-14 22:20 GMT+02:00 hugo borrell <hugoborrell at gmail.com>:
> > > 2016-06-14 6:39 GMT+02:00 hugo borrell <hugoborrell at gmail.com>:
> > >> 2016-06-13 16:09 GMT+02:00 hugo borrell <hugoborrell at gmail.com>:
> > >>> 2016-06-12 23:48 GMT+02:00 Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>:
> > >>>> On 2016.06.12 17:18, hugo borrell wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm getting trouble trying to make convenient reports for taxes
> > >>>>> declarations purposes.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm referring to
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> https://docs.kde.org/stable4/en/extragear-office/kmymoney/details.repo
> > >>>>> rts.config.html>>>>>
> > >>>>> It mentions that :
> > >>>>> > The following levels of detail are available:
> > >>>>> >    -
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >    All: Show every category or account.
> > >>>>> >    -
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >    Top-Level: Show only the highest-level categories or accounts,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> and *roll
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> >    up the sums of the subordinates categories or accounts into
> those
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> values.*
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> >    -
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >    Groups: Show only the totals of the income, expenses, assets,
> or
> > >>>>> >    liabilities.
> > >>>>> >    -
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >    Total: Show only the grand totals line.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This is pretty good but... I wish I could choose more specificly
> which
> > >>>>> accounts or categories to show on the report AND roll up the sums
> of
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> subordinates categories or accounts into those values.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This is pretty easy to do for an instant view of the accounts from
> the
> > >>>>> "account list" page
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> https://docs.kde.org/stable4/en/extragear-office/kmymoney/details.budg
> > >>>>> ets.create.html#idp59913792
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The list can be expanded or collapsed to show or hide Subcategories
> > >>>>> within
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> > a Category.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The trouble is that this very usefull feature seems to only be
> > >>>>> available
> > >>>>> for the present state of the KMM file, not for a previous state
> (for
> > >>>>> ex. :
> > >>>>> last year Income and Expenses on the 31th of december).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Is there a way to make this possible ? Or do I have to consider
> > >>>>> re-building
> > >>>>> the whole architecture to comply with the report built-in grain
> (i.e.
> > >>>>> top
> > >>>>> level / groups) and add manually sub-categories if necessary ?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks a lot for considering this pretty long question.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You should start by looking through all the options for configuring
> > >>>> reports.  You can select any set of accounts, any set of categories.
> > >>>> You
> > >>>> can also select any time period.  I don't know if you can show
> account
> > >>>> balances as of a given date (probably, I just have not tried) but
> you
> > >>>> can
> > >>>> certainly show all transactions for a set of accounts for a set of
> > >>>> categories for last calendar year.  Also, if you ticked the "tax"
> box
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> an appropriate set of categories, you could start with any of the
> Tax
> > >>>> related reports.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is there really something you want that can't be done?  If so, can
> you
> > >>>> give a small, concrete example?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jack
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Jack.
> > >>>
> > >>> "you can select any set of accounts, any set of categories." : yes I
> > >>> can, but I don't find any possilibility of un-selecting them while
> > >>> keeping
> > >>> their amount in there main category.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please have a look to the a rough example attached : I have made a
> > >>> report with the amounts for "checking account", "pety cash" and
> "savings
> > >>> accounts". The trouble is that if I choose NOT to show them in my
> > >>> report,
> > >>> the main account "assets" is set to... 0 instead of the sum of the 3
> > >>> hidden
> > >>> accounts that are sub accounts of "assets". All I can do is take my
> > >>> pocket
> > >>> calculator to make the sum... Unless I missed something !
> > >>>
> > >>> Hugo
> > >>
> > >> This is roughly what I wish I could get in my reports, here obtained
> from
> > >> the "account" section (see screenshots). Any possibility to make such
> > >> reports ?
> > >>
> > >> Hugo
> > >
> > > Oups, sorry, these were not the correct screenshots :
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is there, by any chance, any improvement to expect concerning reports in
> > KMM 4.8 ? (not tested yet since working on windows).
>
> Unfortunately, the report system did not see this kind of improvement in
> the
> 4.8 release.
>
> --
>
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>
> Thomas Baumgart
>
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Hello,

OK then, I guess I'd rather submit a request on
https://bugs.kde.org/request.cgi.

Is there first something I should first now about reports ?

I still miss the ability to  roll up the sums of hidden subordinates
categories or accounts into there "parent" categories or accounts. Is this
allready possible and I haven't find it ? This could be a checkbox added in
this screen (see screenshot  attached).

Thanks

Hugo
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