[Kmymoney] KMyMoney Digest, Vol 65, Issue 4
W. Harris
nbcblue at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 10 18:10:43 UTC 2015
Thanks for all of the suggestions regarding reconcilliation. I got it resolved.
William
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Reconcilling statement (Thomas Baumgart)
2. Is anyone using OFX with a Chase credit card (Jack)
3. Re: Is anyone using OFX with a Chase credit card (Jeff Barlow)
4. Re: Is anyone using OFX with a Chase credit card (Jack)
5. Re: Is anyone using OFX with a Chase credit card
(Ryan Novosielski)
6. Re: Reconcilling statement (Ryan Novosielski)
7. Re: Is anyone using OFX with a Chase credit card
(Ryan Novosielski)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 17:25:15 +0100
From: Thomas Baumgart <thb at net-bembel.de>
To: kmymoney at kde.org
Subject: Re: [Kmymoney] Reconcilling statement
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Hi,
On Tuesday 08 December 2015 13:32:09 Jack wrote:
> On 2015.12.08 13:24, W. Harris wrote:
> > I have been using KMymoney for two months now. When I go to reconcile
> > my statement I have not been able to enter anything into the
> > "starting balance of this statement" field. The field will not let me
> > enter anything. I must be doing something wrong, but cannot figure it
> > out.
>
> William,
>
> You are not doing anything wrong. The starting and ending balances on
> the reconcile wizard should be treated as read only. They indicate
> what the program thinks.
The ending balance field is calculated but writable. The user should enter the
value printed on the bank statement, so that the reconcile process will show
correct results. The starting balance indeed is calculated and read-only. It
must match the starting balance printed on your statement. Otherwise, the last
reconciliation is wrong.
To get a correct value into this field, use the account dialog to enter an
opening balance. This is the starting balance of the first statement you try
to manage with KMyMoney. Once you have this entered, you will find an opening
balances transaction in the ledger. From there on, the starting balance should
match.
If not, I might have forgotten something. It is so long ago that I developed
this stuff.
> If you have never reconciled that account, I
> believe it will show $0. If you have reconciled before, it should show
> the previous ending balance. The ending balance it shows is the
> previous ending balance (total account adding all transactions marked
> as Reconciled) plus all transactions marked as Cleared up to the date
> of reconciliation. You can continue to mark transactions as cleared
> after you have started the reconciliation process, but I find it is
> easier to get all transactions marked correctly before you start. That
> way, the ending balance it shows really should match the ending balance
> on the statement against which you are reconciling.
>
> Let us know if you still have problems. The reconciliation process
> becomes much more obvious once you recognize how it works, but until
> then, it does seem to be confusing. Once you have gotten through it,
> if you have any suggestions for improving the description of the
> process in the handbook, let us know. I'll be glad to edit. The
> problem is that for those of us who have used KMM for many years, it's
> just hard to remember how hard it was to get started.
Yes, see above.
Thomas
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 18:54:03 -0500
From: Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
To: kmymoney at kde.org
Subject: [Kmymoney] Is anyone using OFX with a Chase credit card
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I've been using KMyMoney to download my Chase credit card transactions
for several years. However, they recently made some change "to improve
security" and now it no longer works. Whether just trying to update
the account, or trying to re-map it after unmapping, the error says to
go the Chase secure message center for a message about how to confirm
my identity. The problem is that message has never arrived. I finally
spoke with someone in tech support who basically said I should just
wait a week and try again. They seem to know they have some problem,
but not how to fix it. And, since I'm using "unsupported" software,
there is nothing they can (or will) do.
Is there anyone who has successfully downloaded transactions for a
Chase credit card since they made this change (11/17/15, I think)?
Thanks for any information or useful suggestions.
Jack
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 16:05:57 -0800
From: Jeff Barlow <jeff at wb6csv.net>
To: kmymoney at kde.org
Subject: Re: [Kmymoney] Is anyone using OFX with a Chase credit card
Message-ID: <5668C1E5.80304 at wb6csv.net>
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On 12/09/2015 03:54 PM, Jack wrote:
> I've been using KMyMoney to download my Chase credit card transactions
> for several years. However, they recently made some change "to improve
> security" and now it no longer works. Whether just trying to update the
> account, or trying to re-map it after unmapping, the error says to go
> the Chase secure message center for a message about how to confirm my
> identity. The problem is that message has never arrived. I finally
> spoke with someone in tech support who basically said I should just wait
> a week and try again. They seem to know they have some problem, but not
> how to fix it. And, since I'm using "unsupported" software, there is
> nothing they can (or will) do.
>
> Is there anyone who has successfully downloaded transactions for a Chase
> credit card since they made this change (11/17/15, I think)?
I've had exactly the same experience. Chase is either clueless or just
doesn't care. I've resorted to logging in to their web site, downloading
the OFX file, and then importing it into KMyMoney. I'm thinking it's
time to get a new Visa card from elsewhere.
--
Later,
Jeff
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 19:16:25 -0500
From: Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
To: kmymoney at kde.org
Subject: Re: [Kmymoney] Is anyone using OFX with a Chase credit card
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On 2015.12.09 19:05, Jeff Barlow wrote:
> On 12/09/2015 03:54 PM, Jack wrote:
>> I've been using KMyMoney to download my Chase credit card
>> transactions
>> for several years. However, they recently made some change "to
>> improve
>> security" and now it no longer works. Whether just trying to update
>> the
>> account, or trying to re-map it after unmapping, the error says to go
>> the Chase secure message center for a message about how to confirm my
>> identity. The problem is that message has never arrived. I finally
>> spoke with someone in tech support who basically said I should just
>> wait
>> a week and try again. They seem to know they have some problem, but
>> not
>> how to fix it. And, since I'm using "unsupported" software, there is
>> nothing they can (or will) do.
>>
>> Is there anyone who has successfully downloaded transactions for a
>> Chase
>> credit card since they made this change (11/17/15, I think)?
>
> I've had exactly the same experience. Chase is either clueless or
> just doesn't care. I've resorted to logging in to their web site,
> downloading the OFX file, and then importing it into KMyMoney. I'm
> thinking it's time to get a new Visa card from elsewhere.
>
Well, I've done some more googling, and I think I may have found the
issue (other than that the first and second line support at Chase are
all willfully clueless.) Take a look at
http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Setting_up_OFXDirectConnect_in_GnuCash_2#Chase_.22username_or_password_are_incorrect.22
which indicates the need for using a UID (user id) within the OFX
request. First, this requires you use header 103 instead of 102, so
you absolutely need to unmap and then remap the account. However, I
don't see any place to enter the UID in either KMM or libOFX, and I
haven't dug deep enough to determine whether it's buried somewhere,
perhaps under a different name, or if it's just not in libOFX yet.
I'll probably take this further on the devel list, but if I do find a
solution, I'll post it here. Otherwise, I suspect Chase is going to
lose several customers.
Jack
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 20:52:13 -0500
From: Ryan Novosielski <ryan at novosielski.com>
To: kmymoney at kde.org
Subject: Re: [Kmymoney] Is anyone using OFX with a Chase credit card
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2015, at 06:54 PM, Jack wrote:
> I've been using KMyMoney to download my Chase credit card transactions
> for several years. However, they recently made some change "to improve
> security" and now it no longer works. Whether just trying to update
> the account, or trying to re-map it after unmapping, the error says to
> go the Chase secure message center for a message about how to confirm
> my identity. The problem is that message has never arrived. I finally
> spoke with someone in tech support who basically said I should just
> wait a week and try again. They seem to know they have some problem,
> but not how to fix it. And, since I'm using "unsupported" software,
> there is nothing they can (or will) do.
>
> Is there anyone who has successfully downloaded transactions for a
> Chase credit card since they made this change (11/17/15, I think)?
>
> Thanks for any information or useful suggestions.
I could swear I've done it since then. I'll try a little later and
report back.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 21:05:27 -0500
From: Ryan Novosielski <ryan at novosielski.com>
To: kmymoney at kde.org
Subject: Re: [Kmymoney] Reconcilling statement
Message-ID:
<1449713127.3617097.463188241.30AA465F at webmail.messagingengine.com>
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By design, or at least "this is the way mine works." I couldn't tell
you why. It should normally be right, if you've reconciled the
previous month.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015, at 01:24 PM, W. Harris wrote:
> I have been using KMymoney for two months now. When I go to reconcile
> my statement I have not been able to enter anything into the "starting
> balance of this statement" field. The field will not let me enter
> anything. I must be doing something wrong, but
cannot figure it out.
>
> William
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:11:46 -0500
From: Ryan Novosielski <ryan at novosielski.com>
To: kmymoney at kde.org
Subject: Re: [Kmymoney] Is anyone using OFX with a Chase credit card
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2015, at 08:52 PM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015, at 06:54 PM, Jack wrote:
> > I've been using KMyMoney to download my Chase credit card transactions
> > for several years. However, they recently made some change "to improve
> > security" and now it no longer works. Whether just trying to update
> > the account, or trying to re-map it after unmapping, the error says to
> > go the Chase secure message center for a message about how to confirm
> > my identity. The problem is that message has never arrived. I finally
> > spoke with someone in tech support who basically said I should just
> > wait a week and try again. They seem to know they have some problem,
> > but not how to fix it. And, since I'm using "unsupported" software,
> > there is nothing they can (or will) do.
> >
> > Is there anyone who has successfully downloaded transactions for a
> > Chase credit card since they made this change (11/17/15, I think)?
> >
> > Thanks for any information or useful suggestions.
>
> I could swear I've done it since then. I'll try a little later and
> report back.
Not much later, 11/25. It was working up till then for me anyway. I'm
seeing the same thing right now. I've contacted Chase.
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Ryan Novosielski
ryan at novosielski.com
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