[Kmymoney] native currencies are not converted to base currency int he Budgeting vs. Actual Report

Wed Nov 6 09:23:15 UTC 2013

Hi Alvaro,
I understand. It was only yesterday when pointing at "Skip value if
price is zero" that I saw the note explaining that this option was for
investment reports ..... instead of balances as all other reports do.
I'd never seen that note before.
I nice option for investment reports but a bit misleading for silly guys
like me when offered for configuring Budgeted vs. Actual reports.

Again, I very much appreciate your prompt help - great!

Cheers
Michael Berger

On 11/05/2013 01:29 PM, Alvaro Soliverez wrote:
> Hello Michael,
> First of all, thanks for the detailed explanation.
>
> There should be no interaction between that option and budget reports.
> As you guessed correctly, it has to do with prices of currencies and
> investments, and it's intended for use only with invesment price reports.
> There's no similar option for budgets, at least that I can remember.
>
> I'll go into the code and fix, since I added the option.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Regards,
> Alvaro
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Michael Berger <idest at online.de
> <mailto:idest at online.de>> wrote:
>
>     Hello Alvaro,
>     thanks for your response.
>
>     I am owing and as well managing assets and accounts of various
>     types  in the currencies EURO (base), SFR, USD, IDR, all in the
>     same KMM-files.
>
>     Owners of these different accounts (residing in Europe) would like
>     to see, inter alia, the following reports and summaries:
>     Income and Expenses, Cash-flow, Budgeting (budgeted vs. actual
>     yearly).
>     In order to access ones property and do some planning, an easy to
>     grasp summary is desirable and furthermore to have it presented in
>     the owner's respective base currency, say in EURO.
>
>     Now, all this works fine as long as you would not use the option
>     "Skip value if price is zero". But if you do the resulting figures
>     go beyond every imagination.
>     Im not quite satisfied when proposing not to use this option because:
>     Firstly, it simply is offered there and thus inviting you to use
>     it - whoever put it there must have had something in mind.
>     Secondly, yearly reports "Budgeted vs. Actual" can become very,
>     very large and may contain a number of categories/accounts with
>     values (prices?) varying over time between zero and any higher
>     value. Navigating through the report becomes hard and each
>     position of temporary irrelevance (because it happens to be just
>     empty at that time) would make the spread sheet more lucid.
>
>     As I said, this is nothing of any significant importance and I am
>     not a bit encouraging or asking to put any effort into this. But
>     then, this is not correct in my opinion. Perhaps simply remove the
>     option "Skip value if price is zero" and that's it?
>     It also strikes me what is really meant here by the term "price".
>     Does this refer to the prices of currencies as shown in KMM's
>     Price Editor (I would anticipate it should). It goes without
>     saying that in my reports the "prices" are not empty but left
>     untouched all the time whereas other accounts/categories etc. may
>     show a zero value in one month and not in the next month.
>
>     Looking at the exchange rate between EURO and IDR it is something
>     like 1 : 0,00006512. My precision is set to eight digits.
>
>     Thanks to you and all those involved in creating and developing
>     this very fine program!
>
>     Cheer!
>     Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>     On 11/04/2013 10:56 PM, Alvaro Soliverez wrote:
>>     Hello,
>>     I haven't really tested, but I'm wondering what you expect to get
>>     from the "skip value if price is zero" option. It's originally
>>     meant for investment price options, and I can't think of valid
>>     cases for using it in budget reports.
>>
>>     What do you think this option should do?
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Alvaro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Michael Berger <idest at online.de
>>     <mailto:idest at online.de>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi all!
>>         in May this year  I reported the following to the list but
>>         got no response. Here it is again:
>>
>>         /I am using various currencies next to my base currency which
>>         is the EURO.//
>>         //When setting up a budget all native currencies are nicely
>>         converted to the base currency and shown as such.//
>>         //In Report Configuration the option "Convert values to base
>>         currency" is activated in the tab "Report".//
>>         //The other two options are left not ticked.//
>>         //The Budget Report looks as it should, i. e. all currencies
>>         are correctly converted and shown.//
>>         ////
>>         //However, if "Skip value if price is zero" is also
>>         activated, native currencies are NOT converted and I turn
>>         from pensioner to billionaire the very moment I hit ENTER (1
>>         IDR becomes 1 EURO whereas it should be only something near
>>         to 0,00007... Euro)//
>>         ////
>>         //This is not what I expected to see unless I completely
>>         misinterpret the meaning of "Skip value if price is zero".//
>>         //Then, what the heck is meant by "price"?//
>>         //Do we perhaps have a bug here?//
>>         ////
>>         //Cheers everybody!//
>>         ////
>>         //Oh, I am using KMM 4.6.3 under KDE 4.10.2/
>>
>>         Nothing really serious but somehow irritating. Am I the only
>>         one to have noticed this behavior?
>>
>>         Cheers!
>>         Michael
>>
>>
>>         *
>>
>>         *
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>>         Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
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>>         D-35606 Solms
>>         idest at online.de <mailto:idest at online.de>
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