[Kmymoney] Are there any instructions relating to Closing and Hiding Closed Accounts Please

[Peter]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:53:11 +0200
Thomas Baumgart <thb at net-bembel.de> wrote:

Hi Allan and Thomas


> Hi,
> 
> on Monday 15 August 2011 13:35:28 Peter wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:24:56 +0100
> > 
> > aga <agander93 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:59:39 +1000
> > > 
> > > Peter <cave at tpg.com.au> wrote:
> > > > Hello all
> > > > 
> > > > Now successfully moved to KMM 4.6.0 a question arises.
> > > > 
> > > > I think? I have read almost all of the manual but can not find
> > > > anything on the subject and conditions of Closing accounts and
> > > > hiding those accounts.
> > > > 
> > > > A couple of my old closed accounts have resurfaced in part only
> > > > after importing other accounts and I tried to enter a dummy
> > > > transaction to reduce the account to zero but this was not
> > > > permitted so I am curious about the "rules" that apply.
> > > > 
> > > > I think that if I delete all transactions it will affect the
> > > > balance of existing accounts so probably not a good idea?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > Peter
> > > > Linux Mint 11 KMM 4.06.0
> > > 
> > > (No swanking allowed!)
> > > 
> > > The problem with editing old transactions is an old chestnut, and
> > > I referred to it in the thread on your importing difficulties.
> > > Almost certainly because, I think, you removed the opening
> > > balance entries, the account opening dates may be more recent
> > > than the earliest transactions.
> > > 
> > > Similarly, if you attempt to enter a new transaction earlier than
> > > the account opening date, you will be unable to.  Just correct
> > > the opening dates.
> > > 
> > > There is a separate response on hiding closed accounts, and you
> > > should be able to do this once you've entered the new/old items.
> > > 
> > > Allan
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > 
> > Hi Allan
> > 
> > Thank you - that was it - the account was created at the date of
> > import and it would therefore not allow an entry earlier than that
> > date.
> 
> I added https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280127 to fix that.
> 

Just a little more info from my end which may/may not help - please
ignore if of no interest. 

In KMM 4.5.3 When doing the first migration of QIF files and stripping
the opening balance entries, I had manually created the accounts with
the correct starting dates then imported the data.

Hence the accounts started with the correct date but the "generated
accounts" from old closed accounts had a starting date of the import
date.

Updating this to KMM 4.6.0 did not change anything.

When I loaded a new HDD with KMM 4.6.0 I had to create 1 account
manually to be able to start importing.

I then imported all accounts without first manually creating the
remaining accounts.

The first manually created account was ignored by the importing process
and subsequently deleted.

All imported accounts show the correct starting date for the account
when looking in the "Edit Account" page.

The "generated accounts" from old closed accounts show the starting
date for the account as the import date same as previously.

Knowing this makes it easy to Edit that "generated account", adjust with
a dummy transaction and close it.

A very slight difference in the Ledgers between the two import methods
is that the totally automatic import into new KMM 4.6.0 had, in a couple
of cases, slightly more info in the payee description line than the
earlier import. 

The difference was really insignificant but still a difference for the
same QIF file and is of no concern.

Regards

Peter