[kmymoney] [Bug 486876] Show balance button on Ledger view is negative

jesse bugzilla_noreply at kde.org
Sat May 11 23:04:34 BST 2024


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486876

--- Comment #2 from jesse <jvapr27 at yahoo.com> ---
(In reply to Jack from comment #1)
> As far as I can tell, this is all by design. I also think it has been
> discussed in the past, but I can't find any references at the moment.  
> First, it is not reasonable to use absolute values for these charts, since
> any account can be above or below zero.  An asset account can be over-drawn,
> and a liability account can be over-paid.  What would the chart look like
> for an over-paid liability of over-drawn asset?
> 
> I think what you could be asking for is that liability accounts show the
> amount owed as positive instead of negative,  but I think you will find as
> many people who want it the way it is.  You can think of your net worth as
> your assets less liabilities (thinking of both as positive amounts, as you
> request) or you can think of net worth as the sum of positive assets plus
> negative liabilities.  I can't make any definitive statement, but I don't
> think this change is likely to happen.  However, I think it could be
> reasonable to change this into a wishlist to add a toggle to the
> configuration that asks the balance charts of liability accounts to be shown
> "upside down."  (This could conceivably be done with or without actually
> flipping the sign of the values.)
> 
> In any case, I'll look through the handbook and see if I can improve the
> discussion to make this issue more obvious.  We can also think about adding
> a tool or note to balance charts for liability accounts pointing out that
> the liability, or amount you owe, is shown as a negative number.

Thanks Jack. 
Yes, you are correct about absolute values not being valid here. 

I figured there may be people, and as you said, maybe equal number of people
that like it the way it is. 

If that is the case, no worries. I agree with you on the two ways to look at
same situation. 

I also agree that updating the handbook or adding a tool tip would be nice. I
know that in the normal reports, there is a checkbox to ask whether we want to
see the expenses charted as negative numbers. Perhaps something similar to that
could be added.  Personally, I like all numbers to be charted as positive
values. That is just my preference. 

I can live with the current set up though. I know the new ledger is a huge
focus right now and this was more meant as a back burner item  for when there
is more time to reflect. 

You are correct, maybe it is more of a wish list item. I would be cool with
that. 

Thanks again!

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