[kmymoney] [Bug 429162] New: Reports showing expenses as negative

jesse bugzilla_noreply at kde.org
Sun Nov 15 16:46:07 GMT 2020


            Bug ID: 429162
           Summary: Reports showing expenses as negative
           Product: kmymoney
           Version: 5.1.0
          Platform: Other
                OS: Linux
            Status: REPORTED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: NOR
         Component: reports
          Assignee: kmymoney-devel at kde.org
          Reporter: jvapr27 at yahoo.com
  Target Milestone: ---


Income reports, and maybe others, show a transfers values as negative but not
expenses. They are both subtracted from Income, so I would expect both to show
as negative values. Can we make it consistent or is there an accounting
difference between Transfers and Expenses making Transfers show as negative but
not Expenses?

Adding Transfers to the report, will in a way make this a Cashflow type of
report. It is useful to see the data this way, but the inconsistent value sign
bothers me. Can there be an option to show absolute values for
Expense/Transfers? It would be ideal to be able to graph this with absolute
values too (meaning Expenses and Transfers are showing as positive values). A
toggle, like the one that exist for Expenses would suffice. 

This is similar to BUG ID: 380852, however, there they are saying that users do
are not used to seeing expenses in negative numbers. Expenses are negative but
in Accounting reports, it is understood that the expenses are negative. No sign
is required. This wish list is to further show transfers and expenses with the
same sign. To reduce confusion even more. 

Ideally, it would be awesome if KMY could show columns for Debit and Credits to
remove the value sign completely. (a wish list for another time)

1. Open KMyMoney
2. Go to Reports
3. Open the income and Expense report 
4. Click Rows and Columns tabs 
5. Set Rows to Income & Expenses (the default)
6. Set Detail to Top Level 
7. Set the checkbox for Include Transfers to Selected(checked)
8. Go to the Filters tab
9. Go to the Account tab
10. Click on the None button to deselect all the accounts
11. Select all the Asset accounts, and only the Asset accounts. 
12. Hit Apply 

Expenses are shown as positive values but Transfers are red and showing with a
negative sign. 

I would expect their sign to be consistent. Either show both Expenses and
Transfers as negative values (meaning we do INCOME - Expenses - Transfer) or
show them both as absolute values(no sign) and in the background do the math
correctly. As long as they are consistent(assuming they are both subtracted :) 
from an accounting perspective.) 

Linux/KDE Plasma: Linux: Gnome Fedora 33
KDE Frameworks 5.51.0
Qt 5.11.3 (built against 5.11.3)
The xcb windowing system

Running this as App image under Gnome Wayland. 

Similar to Bug : 380852

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