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Jack ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net
Sat Nov 25 01:06:16 UTC 2017


On 2017.11.24 17:09, Ralf Habacker wrote:
[snip....]
My main comment is that there has (as far as I remember) been no  
official announcement about 4.8.1 - not a code freeze date, not a  
string or doc freeze date, not a projected release date.  Unless we  
want to start all that now, I propose to release 4.8.1, and start the  
proper process for release of 4.8.2.

>>> From my previous experience with KDE projects (umbrello) I learned  
>>> a rule that documentation are freezed shortly before releasing  
>>> version x.x.0 (or x.x-1.80) so my current assumption is that the  
>>> recent documentation  should be "mostly" up to date - the "whats  
>>> new" page has been updated recently by Jack.
> >> Ralf
>> Given that we plan to do a 4.8.2 release (with minimal changes from  
>> 4.8.1,) I have already said I am happy to release 4.8.1 with  
>> incomplete translations.  In fact, if docbooks not changed by me to  
>> 4.8.1 are not fully translated, then it is likely the previous  
>> release had the same problem. 
> The difference to 4.8.0 is that the 'what new' page has been updated  
> and is currently only been translated for 6 of 11 included languages  
> (54 %). The 'what's new' page is probably one of the most frequented  
> pages :-( The releaseme script uses a 75% completeness rate to decide  
> which language is included and which not. If we use that limit too,  
> we are below this limit.
Waiting for translation of the "What's new" page may be reasonable,  
compared to waiting for the entire document.  I would also think that a  
complete translation of the strings is necessary to include any  
translation.

>> When we are ready for 4.8.2, we can do a proper doc freeze and  
>> repeat the request to the translation teams.
> There are enough open bugs to thinking about a 4.8.2 release. I filed  
> a related ticket, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387280. I  
> learned from recent experiences with translations (Estonian  
> translation will be done latest in Januar, see  
> https://marc.info/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=151050920321516&w=2) that it is  
> required to start now with 4.8.2 work for translation docbook up to  
> date check and fixing to have it complete in Februar 2018.
I do not remember how long it usually takes, but I think we do not want  
to ask translation teams to start work before we freeze the strings and  
docs, or else they may need to repeat work.
I also think the main reason for 4.8.2 is not any additional bug fixes,  
but the one critical one already fixed after tagging 4.8.1.  (And yes,  
I've already forgotten whether that was adding the latest Quicken  
versions for OFX download or fixing the loss of Yahoo for stock and  
currency quoted, but both are reasonably important.)  If others fixes  
can be included in time, fine, but we should not wait, unless it was a  
regression from 4.8.1.  We need to concentrate on 5.0, and I believe  
all this effort on 4.x is distracting from that goal.
> 
> Some additional notes:
> 1. the 4.8.1 release would be 4.8.1-1 because the source tar ball  
> needs to be named different as the one already uploaded
I will let others argue the details, but the 4.8.1 tarball was uploaded  
before any official announcement, and without any of the usual  
pre-release activities.  I would just replace the existing 4.8.1  
tarball with a final one, but I will not argue for it.  In addition, if  
we just release 4.8.1 as is, then there is no change needed for the  
tarball.

> 2. beside the translation there is  - from my point of view - a much  
> more important issue in the code base: I'm refering to Bug 385857  
> (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385857), which makes reports  
> using "Convert to base currency" unreliable in case the report  
> interval is not daily. The related bug fix seems to be incomplete  
> (reported with bug 387040,  
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387040). Fixing this bug  by me  
> will probably require some weeks from now on, because I need to dig  
> into the report implementation very deeply. This will delay an  
> official 4.8.1-1 release probably to the second week of December or  
> later. Fortunally this will give translators additional time to  
> complete translations.
I think I have said this before, and perhaps others can provide their  
opinion.  I think we should release 4.8.1 as it is now.   There are  
many bug fixes included, and a tarball has already been uploaded.   We  
know we need to release 4.8.2, and if we set a code freeze and string  
freeze for once bug 387040 is fixed (hopefully by mid December,) and a  
doc freeze once someone has confirmed which docbook  files actually  
need updating and I have updated them (hopefully about the same time,)  
we can release some weeks after that - allowing sufficient time for  
translations.

> If anyone is there who has time to fix or at least can give some  
> information how to fix to speed up the release, be welcome.

> 
> Ralf
Jack


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