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Mitch Frazier comwestcr at gmail.com
Mon May 23 03:14:53 UTC 2016


Either I wasn't clear or you're misreading what I said, the "cost basis
field" is the amount that is used to reduce the remaining basis of the
asset.  If you sell the entire investment, the reduction would be the
entire cost of the investment (thereby reducing the cost to zero).  The
reason that you might need to adjust the cost basis is for exactly the
reason that you pointed out: when you sell less than the full asset,
there's more than one way to determine the cost of the part that was sold.
You can use "average cost", "FIFO", or "specific lots" (and probably some
others) to determine the cost of the part that was sold.  A more
sophisticated user interface for entering/determining the cost would be a
refinement, this is just meant to be a first step along the way. The
difference between the sales price and the cost basis of the part that was
sold is the gain/loss on the sale.

Creating a  "category" for storing the cost and/or recovering the cost
doesn't make any sense, the cost is already stored in the investment
account (the stock/bond account).  It contains the original amount (amounts
if more than one purchase was done).  The difference between the sales
price and the "cost basis" of the sale is the gain/loss on the transaction
and that would go to one or more "categories".

As far as being developers with time to implement it, when I said "I was
thinking about implementing" I meant I was going to work on the
implementation.

On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Mitch Frazier <comwestcr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Either I wasn't clear or you're misreading what I said, the "cost basis
> field" is the amount that is used to reduce the remaining basis of the
> asset.  If you sell the entire investment, the reduction would be the
> entire cost of the investment (thereby reducing the cost to zero).  The
> reason that you might need to adjust the cost basis is for exactly the
> reason that you pointed out: when you sell less than the full asset,
> there's more than one way to determine the cost of the part that was sold.
> You can use "average cost", "FIFO", or "specific lots" (and probably some
> others) to determine the cost of the part that was sold.  A more
> sophisticated user interface for entering/determining the cost would be a
> refinement, this is just meant to be a first step along the way. The
> difference between the sales price and the cost basis of the part that was
> sold is the gain/loss on the sale.
>
> Creating a  "category" for storing the cost and/or recovering the cost
> doesn't make any sense, the cost is already stored in the investment
> account (the stock/bond account).  It contains the original amount (amounts
> if more than one purchase was done).  The difference between the sales
> price and the "cost basis" of the sale is the gain/loss on the transaction
> and that would go to one or more "categories".
>
> As far as being developers with time to implement it, when I said "I was
> thinking about implementing" I meant I was going to work on the
> implementation.
>
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>> From: Mitch Frazier <mitch at comwestcr.com>
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>> Either I wasn't clear or you're misreading what I said, the "cost basis
>> field" is the amount that is used to reduce the remaining basis of the
>> asset.  If you sell the entire investment, the reduction would be the
>> entire cost of the investment (thereby reducing the cost to zero).  The
>> reason that you might need to adjust the cost basis is for exactly the
>> reason that you pointed out: when you sell less than the full asset,
>> there's more than one way to determine the cost of the part that was sold.
>> You can use "average cost", "FIFO", or "specific lots" (and probably some
>> others) to determine the cost of the part that was sold.  A more
>> sophisticated user interface for entering/determining the cost would be a
>> refinement, this is just meant to be a first step along the way. The
>> difference between the sales price and the cost basis of the part that was
>> sold is the gain/loss on the sale.
>>
>> Creating a  "category" for storing the cost and/or recovering the cost
>> doesn't make any sense, the cost is already stored in the investment
>> account (the stock/bond account).  It contains the original amount
>> (amounts
>> if more than one purchase was done).  The difference between the sales
>> price and the "cost basis" of the sale is the gain/loss on the transaction
>> and that would go to one or more "categories".
>>
>> As far as being developers with time to implement it, when I said "I was
>> thinking about implementing" I meant I was going to work on the
>> implementation.
>>
>> On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Jack <ostroffjh at users.sourceforge.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On 2016.05.22 15:04, Mitch Frazier wrote:
>> >
>> >> While entering a number of investment transactions recently I realized
>> >> that
>> >> KMM doesn't actually have a way to record the gain/loss on the sale of
>> an
>> >> investment.  I was thinking about implementing something to solve this
>> but
>> >> wanted to pass the idea past the list first.
>> >>
>> >> As a first step at a solution, I was going to add a couple more rows to
>> >> the
>> >> transaction detail in the investment register:
>> >>
>>
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