[Kmymoney-devel] Two instances at once, was: Debugging plugins

Tue Apr 1 10:04:14 UTC 2014

On 01/04/14 10:35, Chris wrote:
>
> Yes Thank you for all your information
>
> I have chewed it over and decided that the best bet for me is to trash
> my entire install and start over once again. I shall have to see how it
> goes once the environment is rebuilt. I could not get QTCreator to
> properly debug the plugin It simply would not load the symbol table. I
> could get msvc2010 to debug it but I was hoping QTCreator would be more
> friendly It certainly has better environment options.
>
> For debugging I think the best bet for me is to symlink the files I am
> currently working on as I tend to fix/compile/run. Doing an install
> after every edit is very time consuming, I am impatient like that.

Is that something specific to Windows?  I find that it's the make that 
takes the time, with the install being much quicker.  An edit on a 
single file is very quick all round, it's a new make from scratch that 
takes time.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On 1/04/2014 6:58 PM, Cristian Oneț wrote:
>> Hi Christian,
>>
>> A big thanks for providing this detailed information. I hope that this
>> ends the debate over the "supposed lack of developer/user mixing
>> support" in the platform and the application.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Cristian
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-31 12:32 GMT+03:00 Christian Dávid <christian-david at web.de
>> <mailto:christian-david at web.de>>:
>>
>>     Hello!
>>
>>     Am Sonntag, 30. März 2014, 19:08:08 schrieb Jack:
>>     > > It would appear in KDE you need to pollute your application name
>>     > > space to debug a plugin which means you cannot simultaneously
>> have a
>>     > > devel version and a release version running at the same time.
>>     >
>>     > Ah, you have run into one of my recurring rants.  I have never
>>     > succeeded (on Linux) to install two versions of KMyMoney at once
>> […]
>>
>>     As this comes up quite often I retried my approach from scratch. You
>>     "just"
>>     need all build dependencies installed. I did it with Linux, but it
>>     should be
>>     the same on windows except one command (and you have to  replace cd).
>>     If you
>>     test it and it works as well, I can publish it on techbase. With
>> windows
>>     specific stuff it would even be better.
>>
>>     # Get sources
>>     git clone git://anongit.kde.org/kmymoney
>> <http://anongit.kde.org/kmymoney>
>>     cd kmymoney/
>>
>>     # Create directory for out of source build
>>     mkdir build
>>     cd build/
>>
>>     # Run cmake and set an install prefix
>>     # "make install" will copy all files there
>>     cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=../install/ ../
>>
>>     # Build and install
>>     make
>>     make install
>>     cd ../install/
>>
>>     # Give KDE's trader the chance to find the new services (= our
>> plugins)
>>     # I guess on Windows (and maybe OS X) this command is different.
>>     # You need  to set an environment variable to your current folder
>>     export KDEDIRS=`pwd`
>>
>>     # Refresh cache of the trader
>>     # after the next run of make install you do not need this again
>>     kbuildsycoca4
>>
>>     # Here you can test if it worked
>>     # It does not show the library path but X-KDE-PluginInfo-Version
>>     contains the
>>     # version. At the end is the git commit.
>>     ktraderclient --servicetype "KMyMoneyPlugin"
>>
>>     # run your own build
>>     bin/kmymoney
>>
>>     This allows you to install multiple versions of KMyMoney at the same
>>     time. You
>>     just have to set and unset KDEDIRS and run kbuildsycoca4.
>>
>>     If you also want to run them at the same time you can use your IDE.
>>     This is the
>>     way you should do it anyway as it is quicker for every day use.
>>
>>     KDevelop and QtCreator allow you to set a "run environment". Just
>> tell
>>     them to
>>     set KDEDIRS to the appropriate folder there. Your IDE must install
>>     KMyMoney
>>     every time and execute "kbuildsycoca4" before you run KMyMoney
>>     (KDevelop has
>>     no direct option for this, you need a script — I think).
>>
>>     One problem left: If you run another instance of KMyMoney now, you
>> have to
>>     rebuild the cache (kbuildsycoca4) as SyCoCa tracks the files in it's
>>     cache but
>>     not the environment variable. So it doesn't notice that a service is
>>     no longer
>>     available if you just change KDEDIRS (but it notices if you remove or
>>     update a
>>     .so/.desktop file).
>>
>>     More tutorials on traders and the system configuration cache
>> (SyCoCa) are
>>     available on
>>
>> http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials#Services:_Applications_and_Plugins
>>
>>
>>     > > Ever thought of breaking KMymoney out of the dependency on
>> KDE? It
>>     > > would have much wider appeal.
>>
>>     A lot of KMyMoney current appeal comes from the use of KDE. And from
>>     experience I know: That would result in solutions which are as
>> complex
>>     as the
>>     the current ones but with less documentation, less testing, horrible
>>     maintenance and less people who can help.
>>
>>     > […]
>>     > Also, it might be worth exploring the impacts of
>>     > the coming switch to Frameworks - if it will make working on
>> OS-X and
>>     > Windows easier, it may be worth accelerating, although I fear it
>> may be
>>     > as difficult and painful as the switch from kde3 to kde4.
>>
>>     Frameworks will make the build on OS-X and windows easier.
>>
>>     I hope this helps.
>>     Greetings
>>     Christian
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