[Kmymoney-devel] Two instances at once, was: Debugging plugins

[Cristian Oneț]

Hi Christian,

A big thanks for providing this detailed information. I hope that this ends
the debate over the "supposed lack of developer/user mixing support" in the
platform and the application.

Regards,
Cristian


2014-03-31 12:32 GMT+03:00 Christian Dávid <christian-david at web.de>:

> Hello!
>
> Am Sonntag, 30. März 2014, 19:08:08 schrieb Jack:
> > > It would appear in KDE you need to pollute your application name
> > > space to debug a plugin which means you cannot simultaneously have a
> > > devel version and a release version running at the same time.
> >
> > Ah, you have run into one of my recurring rants.  I have never
> > succeeded (on Linux) to install two versions of KMyMoney at once […]
>
> As this comes up quite often I retried my approach from scratch. You "just"
> need all build dependencies installed. I did it with Linux, but it should
> be
> the same on windows except one command (and you have to  replace cd). If
> you
> test it and it works as well, I can publish it on techbase. With windows
> specific stuff it would even be better.
>
> # Get sources
> git clone git://anongit.kde.org/kmymoney
> cd kmymoney/
>
> # Create directory for out of source build
> mkdir build
> cd build/
>
> # Run cmake and set an install prefix
> # "make install" will copy all files there
> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=../install/ ../
>
> # Build and install
> make
> make install
> cd ../install/
>
> # Give KDE's trader the chance to find the new services (= our plugins)
> # I guess on Windows (and maybe OS X) this command is different.
> # You need  to set an environment variable to your current folder
> export KDEDIRS=`pwd`
>
> # Refresh cache of the trader
> # after the next run of make install you do not need this again
> kbuildsycoca4
>
> # Here you can test if it worked
> # It does not show the library path but X-KDE-PluginInfo-Version contains
> the
> # version. At the end is the git commit.
> ktraderclient --servicetype "KMyMoneyPlugin"
>
> # run your own build
> bin/kmymoney
>
> This allows you to install multiple versions of KMyMoney at the same time.
> You
> just have to set and unset KDEDIRS and run kbuildsycoca4.
>
> If you also want to run them at the same time you can use your IDE. This
> is the
> way you should do it anyway as it is quicker for every day use.
>
> KDevelop and QtCreator allow you to set a "run environment". Just tell
> them to
> set KDEDIRS to the appropriate folder there. Your IDE must install KMyMoney
> every time and execute "kbuildsycoca4" before you run KMyMoney (KDevelop
> has
> no direct option for this, you need a script — I think).
>
> One problem left: If you run another instance of KMyMoney now, you have to
> rebuild the cache (kbuildsycoca4) as SyCoCa tracks the files in it's cache
> but
> not the environment variable. So it doesn't notice that a service is no
> longer
> available if you just change KDEDIRS (but it notices if you remove or
> update a
> .so/.desktop file).
>
> More tutorials on traders and the system configuration cache (SyCoCa) are
> available on
>
> http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials#Services:_Applications_and_Plugins
>
> > > Ever thought of breaking KMymoney out of the dependency on KDE? It
> > > would have much wider appeal.
>
> A lot of KMyMoney current appeal comes from the use of KDE. And from
> experience I know: That would result in solutions which are as complex as
> the
> the current ones but with less documentation, less testing, horrible
> maintenance and less people who can help.
>
> > […]
> > Also, it might be worth exploring the impacts of
> > the coming switch to Frameworks - if it will make working on OS-X and
> > Windows easier, it may be worth accelerating, although I fear it may be
> > as difficult and painful as the switch from kde3 to kde4.
>
> Frameworks will make the build on OS-X and windows easier.
>
> I hope this helps.
> Greetings
> Christian
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